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candymoan 07.03.2006 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trasher02
Dirty is for people who still like poppy stuff
Goo is for alternative people
DDN is for people who have experience with music and for people who like punk


that pretty much says it all...

AbsentDadaSezFuckOff 07.09.2006 02:37 AM

The first record I ever got was Bad Moon, I got it on a whim in 8th grade and after the 3rd listen, I was blown away.

Style 07.09.2006 02:37 AM

I started off with daydream nation. looking back i think it was the perfect intro to sonic youth. It prepared me for rather ripped, as well as some of their more experimental efforts.

Green_mind 03.25.2007 01:02 PM

I put sister on for a friend, said, "flick through to get your track". She ended up flicking right through to the end.

atari 2600 03.25.2007 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _slavo_
being hyperactive after having drunk too much gingko green tea, I start another thread.

what Sonic Youth CD would you recommend as a starter for SY newbie? I would say Murray Street would be ideal - it's accessible and has some great tunes on it while not turning back on experimental soundscapes and feedback paranoia at times (Karen Revisited). Dirty would do as well.

what do you think?


I think I've seen all this before and so have you, but it's still a good topic (as topics these days go).

Should I copy and paste-in my list from all the other SY cd-r primer threads this time?...Nah!

I don't wanna
I don't think so

LifeDistortion 03.25.2007 03:25 PM

As a starter I suppose you can just say get "Daydream Nation" first, if you love it get whatever SY album sounds appealing from there, Daydream Nation is sort of SY bridging the gap of artsy and mainstream sound. Its like saying if you don't have any Pink Floyd albums which to get first, and most will get "The Wall" simply because its the most talked about and most played in terms of radio-played songs.

SynthethicalY 03.25.2007 03:35 PM

confusion is sex, 'nuff said.

val-holla-ing 03.25.2007 03:39 PM

i'd probably say "goo" or "rather ripped"

Protectmeyou 03.27.2007 04:45 AM

Confusion Is Sex


why the hell should you 'eased' into the band, taking the soft option. for fucks sake: DIVE IN!!

SynthethicalY 03.27.2007 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Protectmeyou
Confusion Is Sex


why the hell should you 'eased' into the band, taking the soft option. for fucks sake: DIVE IN!!



That's what I think.

demonrail666 03.27.2007 06:58 AM

Daydream Nation. If you don't like it then I doubt you'll get much out of any of their LPs. It has elements that you'll find in all of them.

musicfallinglikesnow 03.27.2007 07:16 AM

The first SY song ever I listened to was "I love her all the time" and it blew my mind immediately. Not meaning Bad Moon Rising would be good for newbies, but that song is (at least for me.)
After that I'd say Evol. You know the advice? "Give it to your little sister in her birthday..."

musicfallinglikesnow 03.27.2007 07:17 AM

I didn't like Daydream Nation at first and I still have a hard time liking it. But it's just me.

_slavo_ 03.27.2007 08:00 AM

I know a friend whose first SY song that he truly loved was "Contre le sexisme". I mean, the more people, the more tastes.

mAraujo 03.27.2007 03:35 PM

Just make shure you don't start with Sonic Death. It was the first thing I heard by SY and it scared the shit out of me.

GrungeMonkey 03.28.2007 08:11 AM

Rather Ripped is by far the most accessible, but I find it a little misleading -even if someone likes RR, it doesn't mean they'll like other stuff, because RR is really quite different, its very simple, with very clean production, and virtually noise-free...

I would personally get someone into SY with DDN. Its their definitve album, and, although this is not always the case, if you don't like DDN, you probably won't like Sonic Youth.

!@#$%! 03.28.2007 09:19 AM

pish, pish

people are missing the obvious



 


screaming fields of sonic love

sonicl 03.28.2007 09:29 AM

No, sorry, exclamationatnumberdollarpercentexclamation. Compilation albums are apparently lame and lazy. Or that's what I was told when I said that Nick Cave's "Best of" is a good starting point for someone wanting to try out his post-Birthday party stuff.

!@#$%! 03.28.2007 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonicl
No, sorry, exclamationatnumberdollarpercentexclamation. Compilation albums are apparently lame and lazy. Or that's what I was told when I said that Nick Cave's "Best of" is a good starting point for someone wanting to try out his post-Birthday party stuff.


nick cave is nick cave, but find ONE thing that is wrong with this compilation and i might concede your point (if i actually got your point), otherwise this remains a series of one glorious musical moment after another, which summarizes sy's excellent 80's output

beat this tracklist:
  1. "Teen Age Riot" – 6:58
  2. "Eric's Trip" – 3:49
  3. "Candle" – 4:59
  4. "Into the Groove(y)" – 4:35
  5. "G-Force" – 3:40
  6. "Beauty Lies in the Eye" – 2:17
  7. "Kotton Krown" – 5:08
  8. "Shadow of a Doubt" – 3:34
  9. "Expressway to Yr. Skull" – 7:08
  10. "Starpower" – 4:49
  11. "Death Valley '69" – 5:10
  12. "Halloween" – 5:09
  13. "Flower" – 3:36
  14. "Inhuman" – 4:01
  15. "Making the Nature Scene" – 3:00
  16. "Brother James" – 3:12
  17. "I Dreamed I Dream" – 5:19
(those are wikipedia links btw)

that record fucking RULES!

of course i love evol the best, but my personal favorite does not necessarily make a good intro. this one does.

---

perhaps there was irony in your post? i didnt really get if you had actually been convinced of what supposedly was your mistake.

the ikara cult 03.28.2007 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonicl
No, sorry, exclamationatnumberdollarpercentexclamation. Compilation albums are apparently lame and lazy. Or that's what I was told when I said that Nick Cave's "Best of" is a good starting point for someone wanting to try out his post-Birthday party stuff.


Agreed. Go For Goo, its got great pop songs but its fair share of experimental tendencies too, and the production is much easier on the ear than DDN. First few listens i mean of course.

!@#$%! 03.28.2007 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the ikara cult
Agreed. Go For Goo, its got great pop songs but its fair share of experimental tendencies too, and the production is much easier on the ear than DDN. First few listens i mean of course.


you sure you're "agreeing" with him? please note sonicl's use of "apparently"...

sonicl 03.28.2007 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
perhaps there was irony in your post? i didnt really get if you had actually been convinced of what supposedly was your mistake.

Yes. Lots of irony. So much irony that your wife be telling you later to stop trailing all that irony through the house, she's only just vacuumed.

!@#$%! 03.28.2007 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonicl
Yes. Lots of irony. So much irony that your wife be telling you later to stop trailing all that irony through the house, she's only just vacuumed.


we vacuumed the last bit of irony in 2000. it was so 90's, and didn't go with the new paint.

sonicl 03.28.2007 09:52 AM

Oh, sorry about that. I hope the missus doesn't get too angry that it's been brought into the house again.

sarramkrop 03.28.2007 09:52 AM

_slavo_, unless a person knew who you have in mind, it's a difficult answer to give.

sonicl 03.28.2007 09:55 AM

He's probably forgotten by now.

the ikara cult 03.28.2007 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
you sure you're "agreeing" with him? please note sonicl's use of "apparently"...


I am. I have bought completely useless compilation albums as intros to bands (e.g. The Fall). However on the other side of the coin ive bought really great ones (Tindersticks) which i still enjoy as much as the full albums. I tend to feel Sonic Youth wouldnt work in compilation mode, but it can vary.

!@#$%! 03.28.2007 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the ikara cult
I am. I have bought completely useless compilation albums as intros to bands (e.g. The Fall). However on the other side of the coin ive bought really great ones (Tindersticks) which i still enjoy as much as the full albums. I tend to feel Sonic Youth wouldnt work in compilation mode, but it can vary.


you are? in the case of nick cave, or tindersticks? or is it compilations in general?? or do you agree with the tendency? or its variation?

perhaps i should bite my tongue...

!@#$%! 03.28.2007 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sonicl
Oh, sorry about that. I hope the missus doesn't get too angry that it's been brought into the house again.


i'm running to the hardware store for a roomba before she gets back home


 

the ikara cult 03.28.2007 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
you are? in the case of nick cave, or tindersticks? or is it compilations in general?? or do you agree with the tendency? or its variation?

perhaps i should bite my tongue...


Hey, Perhaps i werent clear. I dont mean in Nick Caves case, i havent heard much of his stuff. I meant in general some bands dont work at all in compilation format (e.g. The Fall, IMO) but some work just as well (e.g. Tindersticks IMO). I reckon Screaming Fields of Sonic Love wouldnt be a great intro cos the albums those songs are drawn from are very different in feel, albeit maybe not obviously so. I really am not making any sense in all aspects of my life at the moment so i probably have confused you with my rambling nature.

sonicl 03.28.2007 10:46 AM

SY's problem compilation-wise is the same as The Fall's - Too long and varied a history. It would take at least a 4CD set to do a half-decent SY compilation. But Screaming Fields was a good roundup of the pre-Geffen era.

something 03.28.2007 03:58 PM

yea i guess it all depends on what type of music they like now. rather ripped is rather excessible to a non fan so is dirty and possibly goo. i know my first album was confusion is sex/kill yr idols it blew my mind but i was more into "punk" then

something 03.28.2007 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
nick cave is nick cave, but find ONE thing that is wrong with this compilation and i might concede your point (if i actually got your point), otherwise this remains a series of one glorious musical moment after another, which summarizes sy's excellent 80's output

beat this tracklist:
  1. "Teen Age Riot" – 6:58
  2. "Eric's Trip" – 3:49
  3. "Candle" – 4:59
  4. "Into the Groove(y)" – 4:35
  5. "G-Force" – 3:40
  6. "Beauty Lies in the Eye" – 2:17
  7. "Kotton Krown" – 5:08
  8. "Shadow of a Doubt" – 3:34
  9. "Expressway to Yr. Skull" – 7:08
  10. "Starpower" – 4:49
  11. "Death Valley '69" – 5:10
  12. "Halloween" – 5:09
  13. "Flower" – 3:36
  14. "Inhuman" – 4:01
  15. "Making the Nature Scene" – 3:00
  16. "Brother James" – 3:12
  17. "I Dreamed I Dream" – 5:19
(those are wikipedia links btw)

that record fucking RULES!

of course i love evol the best, but my personal favorite does not necessarily make a good intro. this one does.

---

perhaps there was irony in your post? i didnt really get if you had actually been convinced of what supposedly was your mistake.


you forgot

schizophrenia
burning spear
catholic block
today yr love tomorrow the world

something 03.28.2007 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swa(y)
today yr love, tomorw the world is a cover song.

oh i know but its amazing

krastian 03.28.2007 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !@#$%!
i'm running to the hardware store for a roomba before she gets back home




 

Try not to smoke too much bud watching that thing go around your living room....you'll never get anything done:D

ZEROpumpkins 03.29.2007 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _slavo_
being hyperactive after having drunk too much gingko green tea, I start another thread.

what Sonic Youth CD would you recommend as a starter for SY newbie? I would say Murray Street would be ideal - it's accessible and has some great tunes on it while not turning back on experimental soundscapes and feedback paranoia at times (Karen Revisited). Dirty would do as well.

what do you think?

Dirty

scott v 03.29.2007 10:46 AM

T.v. Shit Ep

!@#$%! 03.29.2007 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by something
you forgot

schizophrenia
burning spear
catholic block
today yr love tomorrow the world


i didnt forget, that's how that album is set up.

however, i have to say, you got a point. in that case, the friend should receive a well-documented representative mixtape, rather than an official album; then they can go & pick whatever they want according to their tastes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by krastian
Try not to smoke too much bud watching that thing go around your living room....you'll never get anything done:D


ha ha ha-- no no buds for me! im one of those squares who firmly believes that weed will make people stupider than they are born-- and i don't have any i.q. points to spare!

DeathValley89 03.30.2007 12:08 PM

If you want to fet a feel for the early days of the band, look for a copy of the Screaming Fields CD. Or if your taste is more "mainstream", Rather Ripped is a good palce to start.
^^

All Hail WATT 03.30.2007 01:12 PM

i would say sister. it blew my fucking mind when i first heard it, but it was the 2nd album i heard of theirs, dirty was first.


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