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floatingslowly 09.11.2009 06:51 PM

if yr facing the camera.

demonrail666 09.11.2009 06:51 PM

my right or yours?

damn: too slow

gmku 09.11.2009 06:58 PM

Har har. Picture right, you fools.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 09.11.2009 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmku
I've always viewed 9/11, tragic as it was, as karma of sorts for our country's sins.


true, but if thats the case, I say there is a lot more Kharma to be paid, so for the sakes of most innocent americans I pray that the judgment is reserved for another era..

gmku 09.11.2009 07:11 PM

karma isn't necessarily reciprocal or timely. but we're sure to pay in more ways than one.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 09.11.2009 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmku
karma isn't necessarily reciprocal or timely. but we're sure to pay in more ways than one.


don't forget Oswald Spengler who argued in"Decline of the West" that it is the organic and inevitable route of civilizations to come into decline and collapse, just as life must succumb to death.. His analysis was exceptionally poignant, and considering the time, his comments of decline of tradition and even a rise in public atheism and rebellion is practically a prophecy of the current age. in his argument, kharma has nothing to do with it but results in the same crash.

interesting..

"The transition from Culture to Civilization was acocmplished for the Classical world in the fourth, for the Western in the nineteenth century. Form these periods onward the great intellectual decisions take place, no longer all over the world where not a hamlet is too small to be unimportant, but in three or four world-cities that have absorbed into themselves the whole content of History, while the old wide landscape of the Culture, become merely provincial, served only to feed the cities with what remains of its higher mankind. World-city and province--the two basic ideas of every civilization--bring up a wholly new form-problem of History, the very problem that we are living through today with hardly the remotest conception of its immensity. In place of a world, there is a city, a point, in which the whole life of broad regions is collecting while the rest dries up. In place of a type-true people, born of and grown on the soil, there is new sort of nomad, cohering unstably in fluid masses, the parasitical city dweller, traditionless, utterly matter-of-fact, religionless, clever, unfruitful, deeply contemptuous of the countryman and especially that highest form of countryman, the country gentleman. This is a very great stride towards the inorganic, towards the end--what does it signify?
The world-city means cosmopolitanism in place of "home" . . . To the world-city belongs not a folk but a mob. Its uncomprehending hostility to all the traditions representative of the culture (nobility, church, privileges, dynasties, convention in art and limits of knowledge in science), the keen and cold intelligence that confounds the wisdom of the peasant, the new- fashioned naturalism that in relation to all matters of sex and society goes back far to quite primitive instincts and conditions, the reappearance of the panem et circenses in the form of wage-disputes and sports stadia--all these things betoken the definite closing down of the Culture and the opening of a quite new phase of human existence--anti-provincial, late, futureless, but quite inevitable.
This is what has to be viewed, and not with the eyes of the partisan, the ideologue, the up-to-date moralist, not from this or that "standpoint," but in a high, time-free perspective embracing whole millennia of historical world-forms, if we are really to comprehend the great crisis of the present.
...
For it will become manifest that, from this moment on, all great conflicts of world-outlook, of politics, of art, of science, of feeling, will be under the influence of the same contrary factor. What is the hallmark of a politic of Civilization today, in contrast to a politic of Culture yesterday? " Spengler

floatingslowly 09.11.2009 08:15 PM

plug in, turn on, jack out.

atsonicpark 09.11.2009 08:19 PM

JFK!!!!!!!!!

WHY?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AHHHHHHHHHHHHh.

godsfavoritedog 09.11.2009 10:08 PM

I agree but it's hard to say it without coming across as some Rev. Phelps/Westboro Baptist type.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 09.12.2009 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by godsfavoritedog
I agree but it's hard to say it without coming across as some Rev. Phelps/Westboro Baptist type.


"Suppose I tell some guy truth (snaps fingers) Guys'll drop dead! seen?!" Peter Tosh

 

reginald 09.12.2009 02:17 AM

I had to post this from the .gif thread.

That damned irreverent SNOOP !!!! hahahahahaa...

 

Satan 09.12.2009 02:18 AM

 

notyourfiend 09.12.2009 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmku
I've always viewed 9/11, tragic as it was, as karma of sorts for our country's sins.


me too. more global capitalism's sins though.

static-harmony 09.12.2009 03:10 AM

Isn't the recession that same karma?

Toilet & Bowels 09.12.2009 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by static-harmony
Isn't the recession that same karma?


not so much, the people who are responsible for the recession aren't suffering from it

Lamont Cranston 09.12.2009 12:53 PM

Isn't karma supposed to come back on the perpetrator, and not some random by-standing third party?

godsfavoritedog 09.12.2009 03:57 PM

I know this is a day late, but you gotta love The Onion:

http://www.theonion.com/content/vide...urce=a-section

ploesj 09.12.2009 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by godsfavoritedog
I know this is a day late, but you gotta love The Onion:

http://www.theonion.com/content/vide...urce=a-section


heh heh

infinitemusic 09.12.2009 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek
Thousands and thousands of people die a day. If this happened to a group of people that weren't middle class American then it wouldn't almost be this much of a big deal.

It still was a sad event though, I'm not denying that.


You should already know I agree with you, but just because other people die and some people don't care, it doesn't mean we shouldn't care about this.

infinitemusic 09.12.2009 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Derek
What about the thousands of people in third world countries who die A DAY?

Absolutely no one gives a shit. Maybe if they had decent first world jobs, a house and cars then someone might care.


I totally agree, but that's not what you were saying GMKU vvv. If you had said that, I would've been agreeing with you the whole time.

infinitemusic 09.12.2009 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
whatever you say buddy.. but America has a terrible history of supporting brutally oppressive regimes which rely upon terror tactics and mass imprisonment.. I say America has the philosophy in its arsenal that says "whats good for the goose is good for the gander.."

further America already has an extensive history of abusing its own population. if it can happen with american guns and money and troops in places like Colombia and Iraq, why not here? If American forces can incarcerate arabs and latin americans, why not americans? If it happened in the past to Indians, Africans, the Japanese, what separates us from them? nothing..


Yeah, we all already now all about those things. It hasn't happened yet, and so it's pretty fucking unlikely. But if you're worried about it, you should be emailing and calling your congressman every fucking day to spout off against the indefinite detention ideas that are currently floating up there. Are you?

demonrail666 09.12.2009 04:40 PM

 

infinitemusic 09.12.2009 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
don't forget Oswald Spengler who argued in"Decline of the West" that it is the organic and inevitable route of civilizations to come into decline and collapse, just as life must succumb to death.. His analysis was exceptionally poignant, and considering the time, his comments of decline of tradition and even a rise in public atheism and rebellion is practically a prophecy of the current age. in his argument, kharma has nothing to do with it but results in the same crash.


The funny thing is, it doesn't necessarily have to be inevitable. But it's the people who cling blindly to tradition, greed, selfishness, etc even when doing the opposite is actually for the better good of the country that will lead to its downfall. I'm not really sure exactly what you're saying about rebellion? Are you saying it's a bad thing? Because that seems like it totally goes against everything you've ever said on this board. I think rebellion for its own sake (like the MTV brand of rebellion) is definitely bad because it replaces valid action with badboy showboating, but rebellion in the form of actual, forward social change is good.

infinitemusic 09.12.2009 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by notyourfiend
me too. more global capitalism's sins though.


Well that's a pretty unfair ratio then. Global captitalism has killed millions more. Hundreds of millions even?

artsygrrl 09.13.2009 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by notyourfiend
b/c that shit would be totally obnoxious. :D

Do you mean obnoxious because it's in poor taste or because it's a stupid topic, like old news?

artsygrrl 09.13.2009 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Trasher02
 


Trasher, wtf? This is something I still CRY about.

sarramkrop 09.13.2009 09:30 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh4IBuXClWU
ha

notyourfiend 09.13.2009 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by artsygrrl
Do you mean obnoxious because it's in poor taste or because it's a stupid topic, like old news?


both

artsygrrl 09.13.2009 09:47 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG0yEu6UUBE


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