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when you put it that way yeah i definitely agree. i suppose its different in my case because i have love which runs very deep. sex is just sex to me. it's like a hobby. |
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Love and sex do not necessarily go together. In fact, they usually are two separate things. This is my opinion: We are taught to view sex in a manner which is completely removed from the sphere of the erotic. The erotic is a realm of passion, desire and chaos. It is never plastic or picture perfect. There is a lot of power in the erotic, which is probably why it is so vilified. We are taught to fear and loathe it. I'm gonna quote Audre Lorde, cuz articulates it beatifically: "It [the erotic] has been made into the confused, the trivial, the psychotic, and plasticized sensation. For this reason, we have turned away from the exploration and consideration of the erotic as a source of power and information, confusing it with the pornographic. But pornography is a direct denial of the power of the erotic, for it represents the suppression of true feeling. Pornography emphasizes sensation without feeling. The erotic is a measure between our sense of self and the chaos of our strongest feelings. It is an internal sense of satisfaction to which, once we have experienced it, we know we can aspire. For having experienced the fullness of this depth of feeling and recognizing its power, in honor and self-respect we can require no less of ourselves." She continues that this corruption of the erotic into the pornographic has been misnamed by men and used against woman. That all being said, when you truly love somebody, sex can be one of the most fulfilling experiences. It can really take you somewhere else, spiritually speaking. However, just because you love somebody doesn't mean you should be fucking them. And visa vera. As long as you are particiating in sex that is safe and consentual. |
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Sleepin Around might be the worst Sonic Youth song ever.
Rather Ripped is their worst album, imo, but it does have it's highlights. Jams Run Free, Pink Steam, Incinerate. Reena is pretty good too, but I could do without the rest. |
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incinerate and do you believe in rapture are two of their best songs ever - whatever it is, pop or what - and jams run free is really good too, and pink steam is good when its played live.
So - since its only 3- 4 songs, i dont reallye would say its a good album, but its better than the eternal. I guess - 3 songs from rather ripped and 3 songs from the eternal on one disc - that would have been a very good EP. |
i actually like rr from start to finish. including sleeping around. i guess the lyrics are thurston's shot at a normal pop lyric. please don't kill me.
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Rather Ripped is their weakest LP imo, and those lyrics do get on my tits. I still give the damn thing a spin once in a while mind. And I enjoy it!
I like how RR has a different sleeve for the LP. That's like way cool... |
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hell yeah. and it sounds way better on vinyl. i never really listened to the album on the cd version. then i bought it in vinyl because of the different cover and was actually blown away because it sounded so crisp. |
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i can actually imagine rr sounding a lot better on vinyl. then again, most everything does. vinyl makes even total shit sound authentic. |
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I don't know, man! Are you my mom?? And to whomever said they hated Lights Out: Sleepin Around and Lights Out are both great instrumentals. The difference is Lights Out has some pretty cool lyrics. Plus, Kim's entrance in the chorus gives me chills! I would have to say the worst song on Rather Ripped is The Neutral... boring, heard-it-before progressions and boring lyrics. The only songs I really listen to off this album are Jams Run Free, Lights Out, Pink Steam, and Or. Do You Believe in Rapture? is great until 1:50 where that section "makes me want to puke" and the rest are pretty hard to comment on because they're so blah. |
Agree wholeheartedly, as much as I love almost everything they do, Sleeping Around is a horrible horrible song.
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I was going to say the same thing. I remember watching that video and thinking the song was awesome. I was so looking forward to it being on RR. What made the demo even cooler was how it started playing again at the vey end. I even recorded that song as an mp3 and put it on my ipod to listen to. |
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Reena is a fucking awesome song.
sleeping around, not so much. but still better than the greatest coldplay song |
I always had this feeling that Coco wrote the lyrics for Sleepin Around...they're so...elementary.
I'll take it to Lights Out though...'there's not a hell of a lot you can do'...uuuhhhgggg. |
CHOUT! where the fuck have you been man?!?!!
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I've been around, sleeping that is...:)
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Who cares about goddamn lyrics? Sleepin' Around fucking ROCKS!
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most of the time, with sonic youth at least, i don't care about the lyrics -- overall i think most of their lyrics are pretty good, they fit the songs, and 'sound cool' more-so than 'mean something to me', which i guess is what some people seek in lyrics. there are very, very few (shockingly few, actually) SY songs where i feel like the music doesn't cut it. however, in rare instances the lyrics can be so distracting to actually devalue the song, no matter how much it rocks (and i don't particularly think 'sleepin around' is high on their list of compositions, instrumentally, but it does indeed 'rock'), and this song is definitely one of those instances. that said, perhaps if kim had sang it, it would've sounded awesome. she has a gift for turning lyrical shit to gold, sometimes... |
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I definitely agree with you. |
let's not dwell on the negative; let's make this thread about how awesome pink steam is instead.
so, uh... fuck yeah, how 'bout that pink steam? |
yeah, most of their shit is awesome but when they have cringe-worthy moments, they really stick out to me.
Nevermind was one of the first sy cringe songs to me... I can't think of too many though, really. |
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Yeah. Here you go. Sorry it took a while. I usually don't check back in threads i post in to see replies. http://rapidshare.com/files/27370552..._Demo.mp3.html |
The best song on the album is either Do You Believe in Rapture? or Pink Steam,followed by Jams Run Free or Reena.
But yeah, i agree: Sleepin' Around is a rather crappy song on rather ripped |
I dont think Sleepin Around is so bad...certainly not lyrical gold. I do agree that the chorus lyrics on Nevermind are really cheesy though ("boys go to jupiter ect.." ) and kind of destroy a pretty awesome song.
I think RR and the Eternal are both pretty cool albums, but as with every album released after NYC Ghosts, seem a tad SY-formulaic and lack noisy experimentation..making them a little soft around the edges. |
I think RR and the Eternal are both pretty cool albums, but as with every album released after NYC Ghosts, seem a tad SY-formulaic and lack noisy experimentation..making them a little soft around the edges.[/quote]
Ditto.. I put NYC Ghosts in my car last week and haven't taken it out yet. Easily my favorite album since Dirty... |
huh this is part of the art- the lyrics from sleeping arround are damm weird cool -it´s a whatever for the coolness thing.and the riff sounds cool so where is the problem ?
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the dumb lyrics ruining a cool riff. haven't you been paying attention?
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It's a pretty terrible song but also very ignorable/forgettable to me.
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These and Pink Steam are the only reasons that makes the album decent. But I don't even mind Sleepin Around that much compared to some of the other songs. |
ive never understood the worship of pink steam, they could write that song in their sleep, auto pilot youth
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Cause it is one of the only good ones on the album. I skipped it about 5 times untill I realized thier were vocals in it..I just had to be patient. |
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see. i like it till the vocals come. then i skip. |
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Don't get me wrong I LUUUUUUUV all the noise at the beginning...i just got to be in the mood cause i'm a singer so my fav part are the lyrics and voice..sometimes i get impatient...i do sing the guitar parts to every song....i look crazy |
"i'm the one who loves your mother..."
seriously? nice crescendo though but it does sound a bit tired |
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