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Ooohhhh! What a bitch you are.

Not only you openly steal records for future sale and share them publicly, you also have a go at posting a better bitrate of them than other thieves, which could result in trouble for the people running this site. I think more than a life you need to get a job to buy records when they come out.

whatever..

i'm not the only one who posted a link in this thread or something

I hope you get banned from here.

i don't care, you are still a bitter old man.

Haha.

Well, all I've got to say is, Animal Collective themselves said they wanted the album to be leaked. Otherwise, your argument is none of my business.

Back to porn-merzbow.

Can you bring up the source where they say that? If that's the case, then cool. Still, stealing commercially available records show that you don't love or respect the musicians involved, therefore it makes you:

1 - A faker
2 - A cheapskate
3 - A poseur
4 - Plain greedy

Even more so because you incite others to do the same.

still rather be these things than a bitter old man..

Not bitter enough because I can still afford to buy records. You can't.

Quoted for posterity.

good for you

Yup.

:)

Not my cup of tea.
Just a question : did they hire a "regular" drummer ?

http://thequietus.com/articles/00886...for-album-leak

Anyway, no, I don't think they hired a drummer, they just have better production.

Did you actually read the article, or you just saved it on your hard drive, together with the free album?

Hahahaha.

I burned the article for my girlfriend. Plan on reading it later when I get time.

So you you didn't even read its content, which also casts doubts about a member of the band claiming that, but the headline was enough for you? Hmmm, that's interesting.

Doubt can always be cast. Maybe I'm not actually the guy who usually posts as atsonicpark, replying to you right now ohhhhh! I'm sure if you search around enough on the web, it was confirmed it was a band member. I just don't feel like it, as there's really no point to be proved here. I did click on a few links, all sharing variations of the same story, and it seems legit, but you never know.

However, regarding the ethical stance of downloading albums, well... long before I had high-speed internet, I remember listening to albums with my friends that they had purchased that I had no intention of purchasing myself, and I was glad I heard the album, but I never intended to buy the thing. There's still tons of albums I've heard that I enjoyed that I don't have physical (or digital) copies of. Personally, that's the case with me here.. and in the case of Chinese Democracy, for example... I'm glad I heard this album but I don't plan on burning it for myself or buying a copy or anything. Just because you don't personally spend your money on an album, I think you still have the right to hear it. Hell, most bands put their entire albums streaming for free on myspace now -- because they want people to hear them, amongst anything else.

As far as people posting links on here, perhaps it is pointless, as all you have to do is type in "animal collective" "merriweather post pavillion leak" "blogspot" into google and it'll come up.

So you admitt that you've listened to Chinese Democracy, no ?

Yeah, I mentioned that like a month ago. The second track is fucking awesome. The rest is pretty meh. It's a weird album.

Atsonicpark, you can put that in many ways, it stills casts doubt as to how many records you actually buy, listen to, and form opinions on.

Also, streaming music is generally made available by the artists themselves as a sneak preview of what's to come. This practice was brought up because of people getting greedy and downloading the thing, deciding straight away that they liked it/disliked it, while at the same time having the record itself sitting on their hard drive without motivating them to spend the dosh to buy a physical copy, which is a form of income for the artist, together with the money taken at gigs.


Not that you don't know this already, but there still are a number of fans who save up, buy the record, and then shut up about it without coming across as pompous, rushed reviewers of music they haven't even really listened to. Lame practices are just that...lame.

atsonicpark, they actually did NOT say they wanted the album to be leaked. Someone hacked Geo's email account and sent this email to all blogs and stuff. This was confirmed by the band (Bradford Cox wrote in Deerhunter's blog that he had got Geo on phone and that his e-mail account had really been hacked)

Oh, right... I had heard that on here but didn't know the whole story and was a little confused about all the events. Thanks for clearing that up. My bad.

Well, I have a new point to make then:
Animal Collective fans sure are creepy.

We have a winner.

Even if that wan't the case, in the article it pretty much transpires that the leak of two songs was bothersome to the band 'cause the finished product is meant to be heard as a whole, wether it's shit or not, therefore the band opted for a desperate move in order to get people to hear it the way it was intended to be heard.

haha yeah
but the collected animals forum is great though, i don't post there as much as on syg but i often lurk on it

They want the album to be leaked? Didn't someone from the label almost get a journalist fired for leaking the last album?

? Never heard of that.

Forget what I said. Apparently, the dude's email was hacked. Which is crazy.

"
The album's internet leak on June 12, 2007, was notable in that it was leaked in three song clusters over a period of weeks. Geologist wrote on the Collected Animals board that the first batch of promotional copies were watermarked, and that each journalist's name would be digitally embedded in any extracted files.[6] On June 19, 2007, a letter from the band's publicist was sent to music journalists regarding the leaking of the first three songs:[7]

Last week three tracks from Animal Collective's new album leaked. Within minutes we were able to track the leak to a writer's CD. That person got in more trouble than you care to hear about and was almost fired. The person was also forced to write an apology letter to an entire staff of people and the head of Domino Records along with other penance.

Panda Bear talked with Shout Mouth regarding the band's thoughts on the leak:[8]

The only thing we’re really upset about with the leak is that it’s only parts of it. I think there are six songs out there now. People aren’t even able to get the full experience of the album, which bums us all out quite a bit. So if you’re listening leakers [speaking directly into the tape recorder], put up those other three songs, man, pronto."

So, technically, we're both right. Sounds like they're okay with it, though.

Crazy.

i can't stop listening to this.

feel free to share stuff that has had similar effect on you

I went back to listen to Strawberry Jam again after finishing MPP, thinking maybe I just used to be biased, but MPP is just way fucking better.

I'm thoroughly impressed with Animal Collective, and will be purchasing this one.

Bluish is my favorite.

yeah, this album is waay better than the last 2.

uh huh

Pretty sure that's for Strawberry Jam. That had 9 tracks. MPP has 11.

dude of course thats for SJ... see the date?

Yeah I know. I was just using it to gauge their stance on leaking in general.

Not that it matters, really.

they are not "for" leaks... but they want it to be experienced as a whole, so they weren't happy with how SJ was leaked...

Honestly, I'm not too impressed with this album. Not as punchy as Strawberry Jam, but they don't bring anything new to the table, either. Perhaps with more listens it'll grow on me, but so far this has the quality of a somewhat cohesive Animal Collective B-Sides record.