He isn't as consistent as the PMRC. They want to protect children from music they can't handle themselves. He wants to protect children from music he thinks he's adult enough for. I think I prefer the PMRC to that.

Well, I think putting too much thought along those lines into "Goo" is pretty silly in it's own right. It's just a fun rocking little song full of childlike energy. Writing a college thesis on the deeper meaning probably isn't advised.

Maybe someone should ask Ronald Goldman's father about the limits of free speech? Maybe he has an opinion....

I am sure he liked buying a copy of a book on how his son got murdered.

Persoanlly I can't wait to cash in on the next innocent's victims colossal tragedy.

Taste, cosideration and context are irrlevant in the free speech USA...

You're going further and further out on a limb all of the time. You are now equating Sonic Youth's music to O.J. Simpson which is even sillier than your Faces of Death comparison. Stop and think a second how ridiculous you are sounding here.

Bull in the Heather,

it has counting and everything!

Yes, I know it is crazy and of course this a goated argument. But, it is interesteing to see the limits?

SY push the limits of free speech and it is an issue they seem preoccupied with...

Kotton Krown
Teenage Riot
Sympathy for the Strawberry
Stones
Sunday

I think that Teenage Riot would be a good song to play for kids at that age, I mean, it has the Kim intro with the catchy childhood phrases (the whole "You're it" thing comes to mind). I also like SY's cover of "Superstar", really catchy and not overtly offensive.

Do they really? Maybe the cover of Goo, but then that was Raymond Pettibon. Lyrically and performance wise, I don't think SY have ever been as confrontational as G.G. Allin, Lisa Suckdog, or even Michael Gira. Certainly in the mid-eighties they were a little bit closer aligned with that side of the underground scene, but even then they were hardly close to the limit, and that was decades ago. Today I don't know that they push the limits of free speech particularly more than Madonna does.

Its tough to be shocking all the time...It takes work

kinda tangential, but when my daughter was two months old and in the middle of colicky hell, she sat down with me calmly through 25 minutes of the Diamond Sea :-)

actually some infants respond really well to noise....SY worked about as well as running the vacuum cleaner in our case

My 15 month old son rocks out to SY like no one else, complete with head bouncing and woo-woo-wooning like a pow-wow indian. He doesn't quite get DNA, though. Most of the time I can't hear the words to SY's music, I would hope kids would ignore the lyrics too, and just freak out to the feedback, like good little soldiers.

Aw, that just made me so happy! I have always considered playing the Diamond Sea as they are drifting off to sleep... I know when I'm stressed and can't fall asleep, the noise calms me down, so it would probably work wonders on some children!

Funny you should mention the vacuum cleaner. When I was a baby, my parents tell me, they used to run the vacuum cleaner to get me to fall asleep when nothing else would work. I've always figured that made me a prime Sonic Youth fan in later years!

I would clock out hard in the car so easily that my parents would drive me around if I was particularly grumpy or something. Sounds awful now with the gas prices.

Also the lyrics to "Junkie's Promise" will not inspire your children to shoot up heroin. I have yet to hear any claims of people either addicted or criminally inclined to have ever cited song lyrics for their turn in life.

Update?

Ellesibee- Did you end up doing it? What tracks did you pick?

Jams Run Free would be great for kids.

Children are way more open to music than adults. They don't have any preconceived notions of what music is supposed to be. My 2 year old nephew and I jam sometimes, and he has a lot of fun making some weird music with me.

I'd second Jams Run Free. Perfect song.

I actually ended up playing Jams Run Free for the kids pretty often! Maybe this school year I'll play them some more tunes :)

I suggest Kill Yr Idols, My Arena or Master-Dik

do you think thurston and kim made coco sleep or when they play with her with total trash, bull in the heather, sympathy for the strawberry, kill your idols...??? i don't think so.
S.Y sound it's better for a kid with 9 or 10 years and so on, less than that it's a little violent and "corrosive" for their innocent minds.

nooo, it's totally not too corrosive for young, innocent minds. Some songs may be deemed "inappropriate..." like I wouldn't play panty lies to a 4 year old, but playing the diamond see at naptime? That could be golden.

look at the stuff I loved when I was a kid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nwNPaYoTY8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlM5V...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M16za...eature=related


All of that stuff is a bit avant garde in my opinion.

If little kids can get down to Stravinsky I think they can get into Sonic Youth.

Also my nephew danced to Polysics "Kaja Kaja Gooooo" before he could walk.

ok...music is a great way to estimulate the creative mind of a young child, but parents should be careful with that cause in these "macdonalds days" they learn everything fast and became "early adults" than usually.
Anyway Sonic Youth could be a good influence for them, only depends of the parents and the way they explain the meaning of SY sound.

SpectralJulianIsNotDead- It's kind of sad how kids these days don't really watch the classic Disney films... I remember heffalumps and woozles being such a great song for kids, even 15 years ago! And I haven't seen a child watching Fantasia in ages, either... now all they want to watch is the far too mature "High School Musical" and "Hannah Montana..." which can be wayyyy beyond the grasp of the preschooler's mind.

So diskaholic-anonymous, I totally understand your point. I don't want to be the cause for making some children grow up too quickly and lose their childhood sooner than they should. But at the same time, I don't want to limit the kids' exposure... it's a touchy subject, I can see...