It's not really romantic, and it's not at all funny. You should see it though.

All Daniel Clowes work is fantastic.





Ghost World is just perfect. Ice Haven is cute, Like a Velvet Glove Cast in Iron is strange and silly and i think he was on drugs when he wrote it. David Boring is a lot like Ghost World and Like a velvet glove. 20th century 8 ball is lots of short stories, but not as good as Ice Haven.

Adrian Tomine's Optic Nerve series is fantastic too, and he has pretty much exactly the same drawing style to Daniel.

Had a look at it in the store, loved the cover very much, but thought it had to be a comic for girls :)

nooooooooooo, it's for anybody. If you are still unsure then get Ice Haven or David Boring by dan clowes.

David Boring is a mans comic.

skull, have you read love & rockets?

nope. Is it any good?

yep, it's the best

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_an...s_%28comics%29

I remember Ghost Writer.

blah. it's merely okay, isn't it? scarlett is hot. buscemi is the man. thora annoys me. the only funny part is when thora throws the dollar bills and the guy goes, "oh my god that was so PUNK." meh. just kinda a nothing film.

i looooove it
enid would be my best friend ever
just like claire fisher from six feet under
or daria and jane

Surprise, surprise, atsonicpark doesn't like something so clearly amazing.

Ghost World is one of the best movies I've ever seen, and I still haven't been able to read the damn book!!!:( The comic store never has it, and I've never seen it at my work... Maybe I'll order it from work???
Anyways, Like a Velvet Glove... is a fucking rad book... just go read it.

match point was a laughable crime and punishment ripoff. only good for some boner inducing scarlett johansson scenes.

i watched ghost world with my friend a while ago, liked it quite a bit.

I love the movie but the comic book is even better.

Surprise, I don't like generic garbage that every "indie" kid pretends to love? What's next, you guys are going to try to tell me Requiem for a Dream and Donnie Darko are good (hint: they're not)?

It's not like I hate shit just because it's popular; I hate shit because it sucks. I love plenty of popular films; the problem is, I watch 300+ movies a year (I try to watch a new movie every night if I can) so I'm not so taken aback by stuff like Ghost World. It's... okay. You know? It's just one of those movies. It's just okay. Nothing special but clearly people who don't know any better sing its praises for no apparent reason.

Though I do love "THAT'S SO PUNK!"

And I did dig the comic or book or whatever (maybe the book was a collection of comics).. my friend's girlfriend had a copy.. I thought it was amusing. The film just didn't do anything for me. Just kinda.. nothing.

If you want to see a really good movie, go rent Pinnochio 964.

OH and I just noticed (didn't bother to read the replies before) the mention of Love and Rockets.

My favorite comic series ever.

I'd reccomend this, as well:
http://www.indyworld.com/tp/

I rented this thinking it would appeal to me, but it didnt.Its supposed to be this great indie flick classic but I dont thin its that good. Thora Birch's character comes off as a bitch at times. I hate her and her friends "we're so cool we're gonna point out how lame everyone else is attitude" that is really grating. The relationship between buscemi and birch was interesting but it wasn't fantastic or anything. I expected more from this, the characters besides buscemi come off as cold.

yeah exactly.

the film seems to have something of an identity crisis; it talks and talks and talks and never says anything. like a lot of "indie" films.

First off, never seen Requiem for a Dream, but the title is reallly fruity. Secondly, Donnie Darko is a fucking awesome movie, so say what you will, but I see absolutely no faults in it: fucking rad story/plot; great acting; great writing; etc. What's not to like?

Finally, name-drop, name-drop, name-drop.

the only part of the movie i liked is when she spots the black person stereotype poster on the guy's apartment.

i've already posted my feelings towards the rest of the movie.

So people who love the comic aren't fans of the movie? They can't like/love both? Thora and Steve were so perfectly cast in that movie.

I tried watching it, it just didn't appeal to me. Just like American Splendor.

That jawn was mad decent
I didn't find it that entertaining

who likes to be alone for long amounts of time

me.

Well, I don't really know what "name-drop" means, I guess I'm apparently not allowed to point out good films within the realms of a thread about a bullshit "indie masterpiece"?

My opinion is no better than yours, I'm just saying that I'm more informed on movies in general; I can like simple films like this.. but it sure as hell doesn't impress me.. it's merely a blip on the screen. Just, like I said, kind of... nothing.

And Donnie Darko is fucking TERRIBLE. Wannabe Lynch bullshit, another "indie hipster Hot Topic" shit fest. The only good thing about it is James Duvall, who I really wish acted more, he was fucking great in [name drop?!] NOWHERE (which has my favorite ending ever) and THE DOOM GENERATION (which has a dick getting cut off) and SLC PUNK! (John the Mod!). Those are some great, uhm, "indie" film.

Anyway, Ghost World is just... meh. That's all.

I can see your arugment with "Nowhere", I can appreciate the cheesiness of "The Doom Generation", (everything cost $6.66, give me a break), but you lost me at praising fucking "SLC Punk", an insult to anyone who ever played or listened to punk rock.

I love the film, images of the graphic novel bring me great sadness.

why? because the story is sad?






These are my favourite drawings from the book. But i've read my copy so many times all the pages have fallen out of the spine.

no no, its personal. I actually find the characters quite comforting, Enid reminds me of a female version of myself in school.

In the film i have a theory that Enid, Steve Buschemi and the old man at the bus stop are 3 generations of the same person if they stay in that town, which is why at the end Enid leaves.

i like the film a lot, but it's naive to call it a masterpiece. and donnie darko is about the most over rated film of the last 10 years.

doom generation is the stupidest fucking film ever. a solid waste of cellulloid


I love dan clowes comix, got most of them, but the ghost world movie was about 75% as good as the comix for me. still they did a good job, and thora birch broke my heart

i did really like this film even though i expected not too. i liked the bit with the blues band in that bar.

The comic book/graphic novel is so simple visually, I love it.

"the doom generation" is the most glorious trash ever.

"slc punk!" is fucking HILARIOUS.

"ghost world"? subpar bullshit.

slc punk is fantastic.

heroin bob!!!

hahaha.

the best character is probably the one who's like "yea man fuckin steve with the fuckin mohawk n shit man" who was played by devon sawa.

yeah, "remember me, high school, i had a blue mohawk?" "oh, yeah, yeah...do you guys have some spare change?"

You two are divorced. So love failed. Two: Mom, your a New Ager, clinging to every scrap of Eastern religion that may justify why the above said love failed. Three: Dad, you're a slick, corporate, preppy-ass lawyer. I don't really have to say anything else about you do I dad? Four: You move from New York City, the Mecca and hub of the cultural world to Utah! Nowhere! To change nothing! More to perpetuate this cycle of greed, fascism and triviality. Your movement of the people, by and for the people got you... nothing! You just hide behind some lost sense of drugs, sex and rock and roll. Ooooh, Kumbaya! I am the future! I am the future of this great nation which you, father, so arrogantly saved this world for. Look, I have my own agenda. Harvard, out. University of Utah, in. I'm gonna get a 4.0 in damage. I love you guys! Don't get me wrong, it's all about this. But for the first time in my life, I'm 18 and I can say "FUUUUUCK YOU!"

i love that part and love the unnaturally big mohawk stevo has on that scene.

"you know what that shit does to your brain?!"

i'm so watching that movie soon!!

this wednesday, they are showing the year that punk broke, then on thursday it's spinal tap and then on friday it's the filth and the fury...i'll probably watch slc punk and decline of western civilization or something between today and tomorrow.