I like the cd.
waist sounds lame? i love that song

Also, some of you guys throw around "classic" and "masterpiece" a little too casually.

Some of the songs are ok, Winner's Blues, Bull In the Heather, Androgynous Mind, Screaming Skull, In the Mind of the Bougeois Reader, Sweet Shine. But they are all just ok. It's not a great record. It's one you really have to listen to a lot to understand and accept. Over all it's just an allright record.

i only like the "hidden track".

one of my favorite sy albums... really nice songs

underrated gem... had a quasi-religious experience listening to this LP thru headphones whilst stoned... skink is totally groovy... bull in the heather... quest for the cup... unique... odd.. brilliant...

I love this one. Winner's Blues, Bull in the Heather, Starfield Road, Sweet Shine, Androgynous Mind, Screamingskull, and most of all Doctors Orders. It's filled with plenty of excellent songs. I heard there's a Thurston version of Doctor's orders, I'd like to hear it. Anybody know where if I can find it?

http://www.saucerlike.com/files/real...orders_tvox.ra

EJSTNS is great. I don't understand why no-one gets it, either. 'Bone' is classic Sonic Youth, where noise and harmony go hand in hand. You can also kinda hear Kim's love for Willie Nelson in that song.

I don't hear any filler in here, as every song is unique and different in it's own way. Even the Thurston tracks. Lee makes up for his vocal absence with his guitar absence- how rad is the delay/phasewhatever on 'Androgynous Mind'?

A bird is singing to me through the window. Aw.

Underrated and while it's not their best it beats hell out of Goo. I love Starfield Road, and even better live. Bone never gets love here but I love the drums and the guitar sound and the vocals. I even like Bull among their "popular" songs. I think Self Obsessed is the only true clunker here. Overall a nice warm disc and I hear the start of what became the great Washing Machine. Oh and Master Dik doesn't count as a Sister track so stop criticizing that album for a Geffen throw-in. Those industry fucks.

I LOVE Thurston's version of Doctor's Orders even more than Kim's! It's from the Bull in the Heather single by the way.

Its good. I like Sweetshine, tokyo eye, doctors orders, bone.....some nice songs on there.

I just listened to it like an hour, and it;s not that bad. MOre varied than dirty, not as good as goo. It still sounds like they were bored from time to time on the record tho. But I can't argue with doctor's orders and bone... seems like I like kim's songs best on this one and most of thurstons are meh.

youre damn right it is! i didn't really understand it at first. and i thought it was really weird. but now i love it. you can often times here me screaming "one two, one two, one two, titty!"

expirimental jet set is great. i think it was the third sonic youth cd i bought. it's more rock than anything. i instantly loved "winner's blues" when i read the title on the back of the cd. and loved it even more, when i bought it

While I haven't heard Experimental... for years now, I remember playing the hell out of it in a record store I was working at during that time and always enjoying it. I also loved the response of unsuspecting customers who had no idea who Sonic Youth were. Noise indeed...

The only song I don't like on EJTNS is Winners Blues.
Other then that, I really like to album.
Top 5.

Kim's songs on that album are pretty fucking fantastic.

here is demo of "Doctors Orders"... Kim vox is total different from the album version:

http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1...934WP8RYTN1U2Y

I love 'Experimental Jet Set, Trash and No Star'. It's purely Sonic Youth......back to the roots, yet embellishing the sound with more emphasis, and better structures.
Sonic Youth has never been main stream.........but 'Dirty' was as close to mainstream they've ever come. It seemed to me, with the release of 'Jet Set', they were going back to the strange dark closet of the earlier years..........but they replaced the burnt out lightbulb. They brought their jumbled sounds of the past to a new level.
I saw 'Jet Set' as a sort of victory for Sonic Youth. Instead of moving forward in the direction that 'Dirty' took, they moved forward in the direction of their more chaotic past sounds, yet keeping a nice leash on the pup.........Better control!!!
My favorites are 'Starfield Road', 'Screaming Skull', and 'In the Mind of the Bourgoise (sp?) Reader'..........
I love the CD insert, too..........I keep changing the picture to be displayed on the outside. Multiple cover art totally fucking rocks!!!!

sweet!
what album/demo is that on?

Overall, I think 'EJST&NS' is a decent enough LP, it just lacks the high number of truly classic tracks that you see on most of SY's other releases.

'Bull in the Heather' and 'In the Mind of the Bourgeois Reader' stand out for me.

love it

i tried to see if i could hear "sister" playing underneath experimental jet set, but i couldn't hear it really. maybe i didn't turn it up loud enough? or maybe i'm the victim of a cruel hoax. anybody else have any luck?

it's there. i used to have mp3 clips i made where i amplified the sound between tracks so it became clear w/out having to blow your head off w/ the fury that is starfield road's fiery flaming on fire thurston gtr squall flame fire intro.

anyway, i don't know if i have the clips anymore. would be easy to make again though.

Yeah, it's definitely there. I did it the hard way by blasting the sound between tracks.

The rumor was that they recorded the album over the Sister master tapes, but I think that's not true. If I recall correctly, whenever you hear a part from Sister, it just happens to be a main riff or lyric, which seems beyond coincidence. Did anyone else notice that? I think they just stuck some parts of Sister between tracks for fun.

I never knew about this. I've only really listened to jet-set in noisy environments like the bus and stuff. That's a pretty neat discovery. I've gotta play it in musicmatch now.

I can hear something at the end of Starfield Road, but it's really quiet. Not enough to confirm that it's not my imagination.

On the topic, though, this has always been my favorite album. I generally like experimental stuff the most, too, and this is one of the least experimental SY albums. But I like every single song on it. Except maybe Bone. Not a big fan of that song.

Bone is one of my favorite kim tracks ever.

yeah, at the end of 'winner's blues' i hear thurston singing "schizophrenia is takin me home"

I bought the album not very long ago..
loved it!

I've had it for a while, I think I've bought it around the time ATL came out, in a second-hand record shop. Haven't listened to it for a while, I'd actually like to, but I can't stand the "Betting on the bu-bu-bu-bu-bu-bu-bu-bu-bu-bu" until I change the track cuz it's so scratched now.

Hmmm...I don't hear Sister.

It has it's strong points and it's weak points. Too bad the strong points weren't all that strong and the weak points were pretty weak.

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Well put, but I still love this album.

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some of my favorite sy songs are there. doctors orders, yes bull in the heather, skink!, and their best "ballad" ever sweet shine. some clunkers too. something about that cd is very weird. it was rumored somewhere i think that the band wasnt getting along so well at this point.

I wonder if that rumor has anything to do with the fact that Lee had no songs on that album.

That's always been my one complaint about it. He needs at least one.

I don't think it's true though, the biography interviews were all taken during the recording of EJS, and they seemed happy as far as I remember.

Nope---'jet set' dead air definitely corresponds w/ sister playing from start to finish. i don't know to what degree/why/whether the master tape story is true, etc... but the songs match up between all the jet set tunes.

And by the way -- WOW what a GREAT record JET SET is... I listened to it the other day in a state where I could pay attention to it and it's just full of great guitar tones, great vocals, great sounds, great songs. Would elaborate but ... bottom line--one of my favorite SY recordings. would even be a contender for my FAVORITE but for, of course, NO LEE. :mad:

I like this album lots. Just my two cents.

Lee writes the most consistant songs, no doubt. I know he doesnt contribute much in the way of song writing, but whenever he does, it's almost always amazing.