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porkmarras 11.06.2006 04:13 PM

Yes yes yes yes.Don't worry,i wouldn't take offence either way.

porkmarras 11.06.2006 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Glice
It's a good pop album.

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I don't really think it is a pop album at all.Way too rock conscious in a kind of'I wanna make you think' (erm....) way for that.It most certainly hasn't been concieved as an album to particularly make you think that it is a pop one either.Melody is present in it but the pop tag is really stretching it out of its 'guitar band with a guilt' genetics.

m^a(t)h 11.06.2006 04:30 PM

the reason i think of it more than just as a "pop album with electronic beats" is because the music, meaning the harmony and time, are so well done. Most of the songs are done in odd time signatures not found in other rock band's music. That alone gave me a reason to listen to it.

Glice 11.06.2006 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by porkmarras
I don't really think it is a pop album at all.Way too rock conscious in a kind of'I wanna make you think' (erm....) way for that.It most certainly hasn't been concieved as an album to particularly make you think that it is a pop one either.Melody is present in it but the pop tag is really stretching it out of its 'guitar band with a guilt' genetics.


Fair point... I'm sure I've told you before that I think of anything, absolutely anything, within the generic pop format as being pop. That is, if it has a chorus, or not, and hooks, then it's pop. This includes Einsteurzende or Diamanda or the majority of other things. It's a debatable point, but ultimately I am, as ever, entirely correct.

scott v 11.06.2006 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Glice
Fair point... I'm sure I've told you before that I think of anything, absolutely anything, within the generic pop format as being pop. That is, if it has a chorus, or not, and hooks, then it's pop. This includes Einsteurzende or Diamanda or the majority of other things. It's a debatable point, but ultimately I am, as ever, entirely correct.


your last sentence makes you come off as sounding like the pompous egotistical type with a very broad definition of "pop".

Savage Clone 11.06.2006 05:06 PM

Check sarcasm detector.

Glice 11.06.2006 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by scott v
CUNT. CUNT. CUNTCUNTCUNT


No, I agree entirely.

!@#$%! 11.06.2006 05:13 PM

ha ha-- i like most of the answers here

porkmarras 11.06.2006 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
Fair point... I'm sure I've told you before that I think of anything, absolutely anything, within the generic pop format as being pop. That is, if it has a chorus, or not, and hooks, then it's pop. This includes Einsteurzende or Diamanda or the majority of other things. It's a debatable point, but ultimately I am, as ever, entirely correct.

I'm sorry,you are entirely right.I swear i heard the sound of suffering children coming from my Nike trainers when i took them off 3 minutes ago.....and my feet don't stink Tokolosh,so sit calmly on your chair and don't get too excited.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 11.06.2006 06:06 PM

all I have to say about this board is "haterz"

on whatever scale you compare it too, Kid A/Amnesiac/Hail To The Thief is an innovative series of music, especially when compared to say, Pablo Honey. Just cuz a shit load of DIY and small time bands are doing similar shit, doesn't discredit the originality of Radiohead.

m^a(t)h 11.06.2006 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
all I have to say about this board is "haterz"

on whatever scale you compare it too, Kid A/Amnesiac/Hail To The Thief is an innovative series of music, especially when compared to say, Pablo Honey. Just cuz a shit load of DIY and small time bands are doing similar shit, doesn't discredit the originality of Radiohead.


agree. and all you guys say is that they were not innovative, but you dont give any examples of this, i mean specific examples......

porkmarras 11.06.2006 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
all I have to say about this board is "haterz"

on whatever scale you compare it too, Kid A/Amnesiac/Hail To The Thief is an innovative series of music, especially when compared to say, Pablo Honey. Just cuz a shit load of DIY and small time bands are doing similar shit, doesn't discredit the originality of Radiohead.

Look,i'm sure you are a good bloke and all that but sometimes i think you smoke too much pot or probably it's just the misleading avatar.

Onani Nic 11.06.2006 06:52 PM

radiohead can go suck a lemon

alyasa 11.06.2006 09:10 PM

Prog rock with samplers. (OK Computer, now that was a masterpiece of rock and roll depression and despair, in shades of grey, greyer and gloomiest.)

LifeDistortion 11.06.2006 10:04 PM

The main reason it is considered a landmark album is because its Radiohead, and up until that album, Radiohead had been progessively a electric guitar band. So they went the complete oppisite side of the spectrum for themsevles by making a low-key, quieter album. It certianly has its influnces from other bands that have come before them, so they weren't exactly using methods in recording that have never been done, but in terms of surprising thier fans, it was a big change for them, and it was risky, it was a big change in musical direction and it definately polorized thier fans when it first came out.

alyasa 11.06.2006 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by LifeDistortion
...in terms of surprising thier fans, it was a big change for them, and it was risky, it was a big change in musical direction and it definately polorized thier fans when it first came out.

But, in terms of the rest of the world, it was a quirky electronica album by a serious-ish prog rock band. Not exactly very innovative; but then again the fact that it was released by a major label and marketed as a mainstream rock album says a lot about the shifting musical landscapes and the shifting trends in music and the music industry then. It popularized elecronica to some extent; and that may be the breadth of its innovativeness...

therealglenstyler 11.07.2006 11:12 AM

 

LittlePuppetBoy 11.07.2006 05:00 PM

Strange, I was just listening to that album today. I'm sure there is more experimental works out there, but it's still one of my favourites.

davenotdead 11.08.2006 04:16 AM

kid a was most definitely a risk from the band that made the bends...and its quite experimental from a mainstream act...its also the best radiohead album and probably the best album of the century.*

*(tied with Animal Collective's Feels)

porkmarras 11.08.2006 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by davenotdead
kid a was most definitely a risk from the band that made the bends...and its quite experimental from a mainstream act...its also the best radiohead album and probably the best album of the century.*

*(tied with Animal Collective's Feels)

Sorry,can you rephrase that for me?Ta!


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