ramones is repetitive

dinosaur is boring

she's going to love prince regardless of what you say.

i never got the love for prince but eh, the ladies seem to adore him.

learn his pimpin' ways.

of course the compliment was sincere and well-deserved.

i just thought that melly's answer deflated the premise in the most amazing way.

but since you ask sincerely, very well:

spike jonze
todd haynes
michel gondry
stanley brakhage
the breeders
hitchcock
kurdt
lee hazlewood
ian svenonius
richard prince
jim o'rourke
all the beat poets
lydia lunch
steve albini
lol lol lol henry rollins
watt
LENI RIEFENSTAHL
SAVAGE CLONE'S BOOTS
SATAN

every Ramones album I've heard essentially sounds the same. They aren't bad but I've never been that impressed by any of their releases. Boring might not be the right word though.

and Johnny Rotten has been involved in much better projects.. it might be overrated, but never mind the bollocks is a very important album to me. It has nothing on those first two PIL records though. ;)

the word is "repetitive"

yes

it is

i know, right? i still like them though. the one single tune they form i my mind. ok maybe two, one with the tempo of sheena is a punk rocker and the other with the tempo of blitzkrieg bop. the rest fits in those clouds i think. maybe.

still, i like their 2 tempos.

butthole surfers patti smith nirvana television black flag sacharine trust neu can greatful dead (bleh)) dinosaur ramones stooges be yr own pet (<shit) double leopards magik markers flipper neil young bob dylan (<yawn) alice cooper 7 seconds (<shit) minor threat (<shit) merzbow wolf eyes carpenters mudhoney prurient melvins bowie ll cool j chuck d venom nels cline minute men mike watt cypress hill sun ra dna devo lydia lunch (<yawn) pere ubu necros charalambines to live and shave in l.a. hair police don fleming daniel johnston bikini kill (<blah) sleater kinney (<yawn) iggy

postive i've heard all of the above mentioned by the youth at one point or another. not really sure how to respond to this.

Ahhh....

Jackie o motherfucker
Blonde Redhead
Modest Mouse
Black Flag
the Beatles
... Trail of Dead
Awesome Color
Grateful Dead
Beck
Be Your Own Pet
Disappears
Jim O'Rourke
Wilco
REM
Nirvana
Neil Young
Pearl Jam
Husker Du
Dinosaur Jr
Pavement
Velvets
I could go on and on and on.

yep. Ramones are the best thing to ever happen to music. It got nothin on Soulja Boy though, right? he be swaggin in the room

i think that's a bit of stretch, there's huge amounts of often awesome music there, but i doubt anyone who doesn't enjoy any songs on Around The World In A Day for example will ever end up being really into prince

Who said I didn't like the Ramones? They were my first official favorite band! Sure, they've made some lousy records, or at least a few songs that are skip-worthy, but they're one of the defining bands of my life-time, and along with Iggy and Black Flag, helped get me into punk it the first place.

I guess I just didn't think of them. :confused:

Actually...,
every one should have an influence from Sonic Youth and adore their music.

steve reich. etc.

Worst post on the forum in a while.

Don't forget "I Am Right" by Saccharine Trust, "That's All I Know (Right Now)" by the Neon Boys (early Richard Hell band), and "I Know There's an Answer" by the Beach Boys.

'artists' is more than 'dudes and the odd chick with guitars', right?

robert smithson
leah singer
gregory corso
allen ginsberg
byron coley

a selection of other writers and painters & sculpters and filmmakers who I can't remember/have never heard of in the first place.

A reply and request
 

Okay, I'm new here, and I have a few that have been mentioned, a few that haven't:

Throbbing Gristle
Coil
Velvet Underground (esp. "Sister Ray")
No Wave artists that are a given, such as Mars and DNA
Butthole Surfers
and, occasionally, as insane as:
Nurse with Wound

my point in replying is to ask, as a newbie, not for bands that influenced them (such as bands that they cover, like the Ramones (gods when they played live in the 70s--after that, forget it), or for bands that were similar in philosophy and used some noise in their music but sounded very different, such as Big Black and Dinosaur Jr., but rather to request something different.

You see, I'm looking for other bands, most likely from the 90s or the last decade, who sound as close to Sonic Youth as possible. I know little of recent music. Help out?

You want bands that are influenced by them?

Pretty much every indie band. But you'll see more specific influences in these fine and totally obvious choices:
Deerhunter
Liars
Blonde Redhead
Deerhoof
Be your own Pet
Black Dice
...trail of dead
Polvo
Tortoise
Surfer Blood

Trumans Water

Awesome! Thanks!

Btw, I bounced off of your original post on Kim in the forum "What do you like about Kim" because you had already pointed out the basics of everything I love about her. All I did was expound on what you said. But I suppose, since I'm new, that the moderator hasn't approved my post. Anyway, imo, you are completely right about her being essential to SY. If she left, Then Thurston, Lee, Steve (assuming he was still there) and whoever else they chose could still make great music, but it wouldn't be SY. They should change the name of the band if that happens.