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Trasher02 08.29.2006 12:35 PM

I Hate StupId Mothrfckin Racists!!! Kill Thos E Fuckerz I Hate Em Lol!

Trasher02 08.29.2006 12:36 PM

LOL @ irony

Savage Clone 08.29.2006 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Glice
Also, were the Nazis not deeply homoerotic?



Well, the joyous, shirtless roughhousing seen in Triumph Of The Will might suggest that.

Then again, perhaps Leni Riefenstahl just wanted to put some beefcake in the film for her own enjoyment...

SynthethicalY 08.15.2007 01:44 AM

This is funny, has anyone seen any link pertaining to this suculture? No wiki, but actual site.

pbradley 08.15.2007 05:09 AM

One of my favorite Philosopy professors is black and gay. I wonder what his opinion on this kind of stuff is.

SynthethicalY 08.15.2007 06:17 AM

I would be one, but I am not that light.

pao-lino 08.15.2007 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Daycare Nation
A friend that I've known for 18 years, who has been out of the closet forever, has recently confided in me that he has become part of a gay subculture that celebrates "white pride." This is not shocking to me, because he has always been somewhat of a racist, but I always tended to overlook it as something that he would eventually overcome, as he has for the most part been a decent person.

I respect his right to explore....and was non-judgmental in our conversation, although I did try to ask questions that might help him challenge his viewpoint.

What should I do? I was involved in a movie he was filming, and don't think I should continue the project now in case he decides to resume it.


if he starts raping non-white people, get worried.

mangajunky 08.15.2007 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by swa(y)
ive always though skinheads were stupid. even the anti natzi skins. i dont mind the trad skins of YESTER-YEAR, but shit man.....


Since I'm in the scooter scene, I hang out with lots of skinheads. Every subculture has cool people and assholes. It's not good to stereotype, ever. Treat all people as individuals and judge them from their actions.

max 08.15.2007 12:28 PM

my scene is all about cheap stuff. we're a quite big community desperate to get ourselves the best deals on mainly useless objects that we'll never need in our lives once bought.

we hang out in malls. george a. romero is not our hero.


















































seriously tho this story is just fucked up. i really agree with porkmarras on the whole thing. prejudice runs rampant.

Lethrneck4 08.15.2007 12:53 PM

i dont see the problem...in black and latino/hispanic communites, one of their major cultural concerns is the promotion of thier race or nationality over others...its not called racist though, its called being "culturally proud". when white people do the same, we are called racist before an explanation can even be given. the double standard again, and whites are always on the losing end. the same people who condemn racist whites call blacks who are racist "empowered" and "proud of thier heritage". im sure i dotn have to point out that black racism towards whites probably outweighs white racism vs blacks at this point. why is it ok for a black kid to wear a BLACK PRIDE shirt to school, but when a white kid tries, hes suspended and called a hateful racist. this board is full of liberal left leaning wankers...so your responses to this post should be comical....lol

racehorse 08.15.2007 12:57 PM

this kind of stuff is interesting to trace.
for example, in ancient greece homosexual love was by far the most revered and holy form of love.
some of the ideas behind the third riech were deeply inspired by the civilized glories of classical Greece.
they were also influenced by such statements from aristotle as:
"Some men are by nature free, and others slaves, and that for these latter, slavery is both expedient and right."

racehorse 08.15.2007 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lethrneck4
i dont see the problem...in black and latino/hispanic communites, one of their major cultural concerns is the promotion of thier race or nationality over others...its not called racist though, its called being "culturally proud". when white people do the same, we are called racist before an explanation can even be given. the double standard again, and whites are always on the losing end. the same people who condemn racist whites call blacks who are racist "empowered" and "proud of thier heritage". im sure i dotn have to point out that black racism towards whites probably outweighs white racism vs blacks at this point. why is it ok for a black kid to wear a BLACK PRIDE shirt to school, but when a white kid tries, hes suspended and called a hateful racist. this board is full of liberal left leaning wankers...so your responses to this post should be comical....lol


i'm not even going to start arguing against this insubstantial, selective and lazy argument.

i think i'll just list some of the logical fallacies commited by you.

“Ad hominem”
- Latin for “against the man”. The ad hominem fallacy is the fallacy of attacking the person offering an argument rather than the argument itself.

Generalisation
- Generalisations draw conclusions from insufficient evidence. In order for a set of evidence to support and general conclusion, the evidence must be drawn from a sufficient number of cases, and from a sufficiently varied set of cases. The more limited or unrepresentative the evidence sample, the less convincing an argument will be.

Slippery Slope
- Sometimes one event can set of a chain of consequences; one thing leads to another, as the saying goes. The slippery slope fallacy is committed by arguments that reason that because the last link in the chain is undesirable, the first link is equally undesirable.

Straw Man
- Straw Man arguments are arguments that misrepresent a position in order to refute it. Unfortunately, adopting this strategy means that only the misrepresentation of the position is refuted; the real position is left untouched by the argument.

Tu Quoque
- Latin for “you too”. The tu quoque fallacy involves using other people’s faults as an excuse for one’s own, reasoning that because someone or everyone else does something, it’s okay for us to do it. This, of course, doesn’t follow. Sometimes other people have short-comings, and we ought to do better than them. We can be blamed for emulating other people’s faults.

Weak Analogy
- Arguments by analogy rest on a comparison between two cases. They examine a known case, and extend their findings there to an unknown case. Thus we might reason that because we find it difficult to forgive a girlfriend or boyfriend who cheated on us (a known case), it must be extremely difficult for someone to forgive a spouse who has had an affair (an unknown case).

Prejudicial Language
- Loaded or emotive terms are used to attach value or moral goodness to believing the proposition or suspicion or dislike to the opposing position.

Hasty Generalization
- The scope of evidence (in context of course) is too small to support the conclusion.

Fallacy of Exclusion
- Relevant evidence which would undermine an inductive argument is excluded from consideration. The requirement that all relevant information be included is called the "principle of total evidence".

Not to mention the plethora of inaccuracies arising from ignored historical and social context.

pbradley 08.15.2007 11:08 PM

My friend made me watch Romper Stomper because I got my head buzzed and she said I look like a skinhead. I've never met a real skinhead nor really care to.

pao-lino 08.16.2007 08:11 AM

google DRUBSKIN...


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