Drum's Not Dead is by far their best album. They go in reverse chronological order. Trench will ultimately be regarded as Liars' "Pablo Honey."

Oh, no. Pablo Honey kicked ass as well. DND isn't even similar music. They are both good but not comparable. Accept it.

That was my point. People will look back on Trench and think of it as the trendy record they made before getting much more ambitious.

I suppose. That trend was so good, though. I mean, c'mon, Les Savy Fav and early Liars were ace.

Les Savy Fav were awesome live......going in the crowd and screaming. Plus seeing them with the Murder City Devils and At the Drive In..........pretty damn glorious.