You accuse me of being sure of myself as if that's a bad thing.

No.

No they don't.

No they're not.

please take yr grievances up with Brian Greene and Stephen Hawking.

it's quantum physics 101.

I had a dream I was in this huge mansion flying low inside it and carrying Steve Martin by the shoulders. I said to him "I wonder if ghosts are just people dreaming, like we are now?" Then I woke up.

What hubris you have to declare something impossible!

For everything that scientists know about our universe, there are infinitely more things that they don't know!

Not to mention the possibility of other universes, a corporeal and ethereal world, etc.

I'm not saying I necessarily believe everything, just that I don't believe I know enough to outright dismiss them.

I once had a vivid dream of me playing catch the ball with Julia Roberts. The ball was coloured a very bright red. I haven't yet read a media report of someone spotting two ghosts, one of them looking remarkably like Julia Roberts, playing catch the ball.

You sound like H.P.Lovecraft.

I am cool with "astrl projection/OBE's" as a personal experience, as a means to explain what one's mind does sometimes, but I have yet to hear/read/see any actual real-world use of this that was not either a hoax, a delusion, a hallucination, etc.

if there is a divine "spirit" permeating the multi-verse, and if we are all ofshoots of this "spirit" then maybe astral projections and OBE's are just people describing their contact with the divine.

it's like how Uri Geller can conveniently bend metal when he feels like it, but cannot do so when the need arises for him to be a superhero or something, you know? "people's bad vibes are throwing off my power" and all that nonsense.

it is not our physical particles that pop in and out of existance. it is in empty space, where there are no partricles, that virtual particles pop into existance and then pop back out of it faster than the Planck Time limit.

I'll take that as a compliment.

yes, i guess it's probably possible to recreate a mental illusion of astral projection.
that's what i think it is, sensory illusion.

so, no i don't believe in it.

a) you guys really misunderstand hallucinations. There is absolutely NO way to distinguish between a "hallucination" and mental perception of so-called "reality"

If you can not see this, then you have never truly hallucinated before, because hallucinations and visions are as real if not realer then so-called reality, and it is literally impossible to distinguish between the two. That is why you are hallucinating in the first place, if not you would simply be daydreaming.

Visions are powerful, they rely on the EXACT same neurochemistry as sensory perception, therefore in your brain, there is no difference between the two. Your thoughts, insights, memories, ARE hallucinations, and there is no objectivity to this. Your entire existence is SUBJECTIVE.

that being said, how could you discredit anything as being not real because it seems to be a hallucination? How do you know that your so-called real life isn't the hallucination and the vision a glimpse of so-called reality?

Me, I do not try to distinguish between them, I simply exist and try to feel and experience ALL aspects of my perception, and I put no limits.

of course astral projection is real, not just because of the obvious laws of mechanics which Floating has posted, but because your entire existence is not real in the first place, so why try to argue over what is real and not? Its literally ALL IN YOUR HEAD! The entire universe exists only in your mind's eye, so why couldn't you project your consciousness into other places? You project your consciousness onto the place you call "here" and your "body" so why not others?
b)

that is so fucking funny I think I shit myself laughing! Pure genius! this is why I keep coming back to SYG


no, that would be yr imagination running wild, and there is clearly a difference.


I wish folks would hear you on this, I have been saying this kind of shit for years. It is why I believe in theology, if the physical universe if infinite, then it is unlimited, there are no limits, and it is all simply a matter of when, not if, as you already explained. But people fail to understand the true conception of Infinite, this is why they personify such a limited God(s) who is supposed to be as infinite as the universe which science observes as being such.

I can dig it suchfriends.

I have truly HALUCINATED before and there is no real difference in my mind between that, dreams, and thios world we choose to call "REAL"

but it would be better if, instead of a hallucination or a dream, I really did have Nigella Lawson sitting on my face

"You have faith.. anything is possible to him who believes.." Mark 9:23 ;)

Nigella is only a product of your imagination, your hallucination of the so-called real world, she only exists subjectively, and she is only not sitting on yr face because you believe it not to be possible, so this otherwise imaginary vixen is sitting on some other chap's face who believes with an 'amen' and 'alleluia' ;)

It is because of my experiences with 'hallucinations' that I truly believe in God(s) because when I existed in realms where I did not exist, where no conception of "me" was in control and there was no recognizable pattern of 'real' the only familiarity remaining was the positive and assertive touch of God(s) whose name was repeated as a feeling in what was left of my being and this unspeakable name of the hebrews is a Universal reminder, "I exist because I exist"

I learned from those experiences that NOTHING is real. Of course, I equally learned this principle in High School Physics, which is why I wonder why some of the rather intelligent folks on SYG have their fingers all up their asses in regards to science, when mechanics is more mystical than theology.

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i like how you just completely ignore physical reality, suchfriends.
lol.



i need some sleep.
bye.

I once knew a man who hallucinated that he was dead. No amount of persuasion from his family could convince him that he was actually still alive.

He finally agreed to go and since a doctor. The doctor got him to agree that dead men don't bleed. He then pricked the end of my friend's finger which of course started to bleed.

The doctor said, "There, what does that tell you?"
My friend replied, "My God, dead men do bleed!"