It's more or less the same.

I guess that is true.

to me punk broke because the ideals (lofty word for a mindset) were turned into an ideology. that shit happened way before 1991 right?

Probably. I guess punk was mainstream in 1977.
But in the eighties, it was a subculture, and only the audience would make a band success.
Then came Nirvana, with video clip, promotion, hype ; punk turned into a part of the music industry again.

1768......

Philip Astley stages the first modern circus, with acrobats on galloping horses

nuff said bitches!

I think 79/80 was a huge start turning point for Noise though, with Merzbow, Hijokaidan, Whitehouse and many other "main" players erupting at that time.

And fucken, Punk really did hit big and hard in 76-77.

I WAS THERE.

thank Mario someone was.


I found a pic of what appears to be Glice's latest punk project

"Noise" has to be the lamest genre ever thought up by music hacks as a means to lump bands together. It's probably the most generic.

Hahaha. Bait.

Classical music could be labelled "noise", it's that generic.

Do you actually listen to music or do you try and find intellectual differences with everything?

"grunge" is the worst

That's the point I was making in regards to music hacks insistence of lumping bands together under lazily thought up genres. Way to go in using it to insult me with. :rolleyes:

of course you would say 79. it's the year of the merz.

must spread rep