[quote=dirty bunny]Well then you'll have to blame Bram Stoker then. Then there's the succubus, who raped men in the night and stole their energy. A vampire of a different sort.[/quote

succubus is a GHOST

not a vampire.

Incubus is the male version

nothing vamp specific, lot's of slavic folk books that have vamp boners within,and of course these vampires have only one nostril, an idea which i don't think hit hollywood(probably cause it's kind of boring)

however i'm sure the sexually active vampires of the past weren't emo pussies, anne rice could very well be responsible for that phenomenon

haaaa haaa haa haaa

if i was going to live forever, i would allow myself an occaisonal lazy day where i just say "fuck it, i'm not gonna bother doing my eyeliner today i don't care what anyone thinks"

[quote=Rob Instigator]
Now maybe I'm completely wrong, but I always thought the main point about vampires was they suck your energy. What happens when you lose a lot of blood? You're weak. They're sucking your blood, taking your energy. What does a succubus/incubus do? They suck your energy.

That sounds an awful lot like a vampire to me.

But I just bet you've got to have the last word. Because you know better than anyone, because you've read folklore blah blah blah.

succubus and incubus do nothing like that
they have SEX WITH YOU while you are paralyzed. (historically)
while they may be referred to as stealing sexual energy, it is not like vampires at all.

they are a folklore created by people having "waking dreams." where they feel paralyzed yet awake, but in fact, they are still dreaming and their bodies are asleep. especially waking "wet" dreams, which, in much more cloistered and religious times, was a SIN.

ejaculation was a sin unless for procreation.


vampires are undead, who must feast on blood to stay "alive." they can kill their meal, and ussually do, but if they feel like it, they let their meal, after being nearly drained, eat of their own vampire "blood" thereby making them a vampire.

succubus and incubus are just "ghosts" fucking with ya.

yes, it's not herzog's best work but it's still very good

no last words in coversation
feel free to add or reply in any way you want!

Of course they're not the same. That's why a distinction is made between them. Supposedly vampires were corporeal than succubi, but that's the way I've always viewed vampires as being energy-stealers. You obviously don't see it that way, which is fine (I guess :P).

i thought traditionally vampires tales were used as a means to scare young girls out of having sex with handsome strangers, etc?
i think sex has always been the subtext with vampires, anne rice changed them from sexual predators to sensitive & misunderstood low-calory goths.

[quote=dirty bunny]


vampires feast on BLOOD , sexual energy is not blood, if you don't eat BLOOD you aren't a vamp.

in eastern europe(think transylvania,home of most western vamp. fiction) it's always been related to violent deaths, improper burials,a baby born on saturday dying before baptism and that type of thing, the eternal soul,unable to go to heaven or hell, returns to the body.

EXACTLY

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^ yeah, the vampire myth comes from some noble guy named Vlad, who enjoyed to torture people, in Transylvania/Romania.

vlad "welcome to my lands" the impaler?

i think every culture has it's own vampire myths, they don't all come from vlad.

they want escapism, not art. sadly.

lauren bacall is fabulous. just her in the big sleep seals my love. she and bogey, oh my god.

nosferatu STILL gives me the creeps when i watch it

vlad the oimpaler is the source of Dracula, a fictional vampire. folkloric vampires have been arfound for far longer then that