Originally Posted by atsonicpark

Ramones influenced a bunch of shitty, simple, boring punk bands.

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

They didn't really do much besides make a few really simple power-chord-driven songs with dumb lyrics. D

I'd say Beefheart.

Originally Posted by Dead-Air

Seeing as the name "Ramones" comes from a pseudonym Paul McCartney used, this is a pretty silly question...

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

I think captain beefheart was the most influential to GOOD bands. Note that Safe As Milk was John Lennon's all time favorite album too. And Zoot Horn Rollo was Jimi Hendrix's favorite guitarist before he died. And all 4 Beatles were at a Beefheart concert in England. Huge fans.

Ramones influenced a bunch of shitty, simple, boring punk bands. They didn't really do much besides make a few really simple power-chord-driven songs with dumb lyrics. Don't get me wrong, I like the first few Ramones albums, and I don't want to understate their importance, but to put them in the same league as the forward-thinking, brilliant (though not a band I care for that much, admittingly) Beatles? Come on. I mean, the Beatles did some pretty insane shit at the time... Revolution # 9, backwards guitar solos, and so on. I don't know if they really INVENTED any of the techniques they used, but to put them in a pop context was pretty insane and would've been potentially (and definitely commercially) disasterous if they weren't so intelligent about it. I think they really showed bands that you could do some pretty out-there shit and break away from the simplicity of most pop music at the time. Ramones showed people that anyone could write a simple song, but .. again .. their influence was mostly to a bunch of shitty bands. Ever hear one of their tribute albums? Case in point. Shitty, talentless punk bands and Marilyn Manson were influenced. So, again, I don't know how to answer this question. Ramones may have had more influence amongst 14-year-olds in America... but as far as influence on IMPORTANT MUSICIANS (worldwide)?

I'd say Beefheart.

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

Yeah, I know it's an awful thing when people answer these questions with a serious tone and an understanding of the subjects they're talking about. Watch me change my answer to be more appealing to you now.

MAN THE FUCKIN RAMONES DUDE WHY ARE YOU EVEN ASKING THIS? THE FUCKKING RAMONE S BLED BLOOD AND SWEAT SWEAT WITH 3 POWER CHORDS OR WERE THEY BARRE CHORDS? WHO GIVES A FUCK, WITH LYRICS LIKE "TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE" THEY ROCKED!!!!!!! THEYT FUCKING ROCKED! THEY INFLUENCED MY FRIEND'S BAND DOWN THE STREET -- THE BAND IS CALLED ANAL GLUE SNIFF AND THEY HAVE THAT SONG THAT GOES "LAURAAAAAAA LAURAAAAAAAAA LAURA I DON'T WANT TO GOOOOOO LAURA I WANT TO KILLLL YOU LAURAAAAAAA." IT'S A HIT AMONGST MY 5 FRIENDS. SO DEFINITELY THE RAMONES. FUCK THE BEATLES BULLSHIT THEY DON'T ROCK.


Is that better?

Originally Posted by pbradley

Obviously we all live in parallel but separate dimensions and he's curious who's more influential in our reality.

Originally Posted by atsonicpark

See the part of the sentence that said "They didn't do much." Anyone can write the same song a thousand times. On the other hand, The Beatles (arguably) invented -- and innovated. And they did it well. And they took risks doing it. They wrote similiar or same-sounding songs for an album or two and then just went right into experimenting, right into making complex masterpieces (and, again, I'm not even a big fan of their work -- but I definitely think they're extremely important). That's inspiring and influential and yada yada.