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Death & the Maiden 07.15.2008 06:07 AM

So, going by what was said about tempos, time signatures and polyrhythms, math rock is basically complicated rock music?

greedrex 07.15.2008 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
again, why do people get so tore up over the names of genres? It's a way to classify things, and it usually works. Otherwise, every band would just be "music".

exactly

greedrex 07.15.2008 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Death & the Maiden
So, going by what was said about tempos, time signatures and polyrhythms, math rock is basically complicated rock music?

myeah kind of

greedrex 07.15.2008 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sarramkrop
I bet that most of the bands listed would punch you in the face if you told them that they were a math rock band. Unless they were shit rock, in which case they'd think you are paying them a compliment.


twat twat

atsonicpark 07.15.2008 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Death & the Maiden
So, going by what was said about tempos, time signatures and polyrhythms, math rock is basically complicated rock music?


Sure.

Oh, did I forget to mention A MINOR FOREST?

greedrex 07.15.2008 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
you've got all the good ones listed honestly. the only one i'd add is probably june of 44 (who are more noise rock but they have mathy stuff), yukon, giraffes giraffes, SWEEP THE LEG JOHNNY ("going down swinging" is one of my all time favorite records) uh.. or en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Math_Rock

Since you listed sleeping people already, you've already listed who is, in my mind, the best "math rock" band, the only one who doesn't bore me to tears anymore.


Shellac rock and have song structures and time signatures occassionally. So, I don't see a problem with them being saddled as math rock. Personally, I wouldn't call Polvo math rock -- to me that's some kind of weird noise rock. Until you get to stuff like "title Track" which is the definition of math rock. If you're going down that route, listen to thinking fellers union local # 282 instead... they've got some math rock shit, some noise rock shit, some noise pop shit,probably the best "rock" band ever honestly.


i bet the dude knows his June of 44 by heart, he'll tell us when he sees the thread.
gotta update the list again with yr "walking encyclopedia" stuff, you always come up with excellent but unknown bands, congrats.
god, i've never ever listened to fellers union local 282, gotta lay my hands on that now
is it a bit like BLINK 182?:D

atsonicpark 07.15.2008 06:14 AM

haha no.

The best way to explain it is ... a polvo that's a bit more intelligent mixed with some caroliner type weirdness mixed with some sun city girls-ish "don't give a fuck, let's record it" sensibilities... a truely genius band.

punkaspoo 07.15.2008 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by greedrex
Polvo is the shit but it doesn't qualify as mathrock to me as their time signatures are pretty straightforward.
still an excellent band to check but that's a bit far from the starting point....

anyway POLVO!


i'm quite unfamiliar with the whole mathrock genre. polvo and don cab are the only ones I know. what about slint? some call it as a mathrock also. great band nevertheless.

atsonicpark 07.15.2008 06:15 AM

I dunno, I don't think slint totally fit in with anybody.

I wish I knew more bands that were slint-like... at least in the slow, methodical, depressing, speak-singing, lonely Kentucky darkness of their sound.. the only one who comes close (but doesn't sound anything like slint) is gastr del sol.

greedrex 07.15.2008 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by punkaspoo
i'm quite unfamiliar with the whole mathrock genre. polvo and don cab are the only ones I know. what about slint? some call it as a mathrock also. great band nevertheless.


well SLINT are not complicated / fast enough to be labeled Math rock.
they kick anyone's ass though, mine included

sarramkrop 07.15.2008 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by greedrex
twat twat


i know i know

punkaspoo 07.15.2008 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by atsonicpark
I dunno, I don't think slint totally fit in with anybody.

I wish I knew more bands that were slint-like... at least in the slow, methodical, depressing, speak-singing, lonely Kentucky darkness of their sound.. the only one who comes close (but doesn't sound anything like slint) is gastr del sol.


If you find one, let me know.

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Originally Posted by greedrex
well SLINT are not complicated / fast enough to be labeled Math rock.
they kick anyone's ass though, mine included


listened to Spiderland the other day. man, that have to be the best record ever released. I get shivers for even thinking it.

radarmaker 07.15.2008 06:23 AM

I could see Rodan falling under 'math rock', but not Slint. Then again, attaching labels is an entirely subjective matter anyway...

_slavo_ 07.15.2008 06:33 AM

just out of the top of my head:
Drill for Absentee
June of 44
and of course, Shipping News. Their "Save Everything" still belongs to the top 10 records I've ever heard. Not so sure about the rest of their output, but you should definitely check this one out.

 

greedrex 07.15.2008 06:34 AM

one precision that's really important : mathrock is supposed to be INSTRUMENTAL, usually.
you'll always find exceptions i know.

Toilet & Bowels 07.15.2008 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Death & the Maiden
So, going by what was said about tempos, time signatures and polyrhythms, math rock is basically complicated rock music?


more or less, it's like prog played by kids who grew up listening to punk

_slavo_ 07.15.2008 06:46 AM

that is pretty accurate, what T&B said

greedrex 07.15.2008 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Toilet & Bowels
more or less, it's like prog played by kids who grew up listening to punk

nice one
 


 

batreleaser 07.15.2008 07:45 AM

truman's water are SLIGHTLY math rock to me, but more noisey post-hardcore, i listened to 'godspeed the punchline' this morning.

some call 16-17 math rock, but i consider them a free jazz spazz core type thing, anyways, they rock.

dazzling killmen is the best 'math rock' band, if you wanna call them that, i like 'brutal prog' better.

collosamite is a damn good indie noisey math rock band.

cul de sac rules, but again, theyre music borders on so many different styles, not sure why anyone would pigenhold them in any genre.

u.s. maple is a fucking amazing some what experimental somewhar noise somewhat math rock band


anyone starting to notice that skin graft has something of a monopoly on this genre?

atsonicpark 07.15.2008 08:01 AM

totally forgot colossamite and dazzling killmen.

they're both like jazzy noise rock or something... but they fit.


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