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Rob Instigator 05.20.2008 12:36 PM

achieve a Ph balance! 7!!!!

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 05.20.2008 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
And it would seem that interminable bores just wanna bore.

Anyway, in a bid to return to the original topic of this thread, here's a picture of a really good album by the Italian pop star Sabrina.


 


Drink, Sex, Cigarettes
Ford Cortina household pets
Bombs? War? Famine? Death?
An apathetic public couldn t care less

The Public watches ITV
Reads The Sun drinks cups of tea
Two-star family stay content
Their lives controlled by parliament
Well daddy's lost his job again
Because he never had no brain
He only lives to watch TV
His life controlled by apathy

The Russians seem so far away
The government seems to be OK
The papers never mention war
Cos the people that they cater for have got:.

The things that you never knew were there
Or was it that you didn't care
The biggest problem face to face
An apathetic human race

tesla69 05.20.2008 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Glice
You do realise that if everyone copy & pasted a political article that interested them in a day then this forum would be even more gratingly dull and uninspiring than it is already? Just a thought.


oh yeah all those threads about yr high school masturbation habits are so much better. just buy a box of kleenex and get over it already.

This isn't a political article. It icurrent events. I know your generation is scared of meaning, of substance, of truth, but hey life is harsh.

Glice 05.20.2008 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tesla69
oh yeah all those threads about yr high school masturbation habits are so much better. just buy a box of kleenex and get over it already.

This isn't a political article. It icurrent events. I know your generation is scared of meaning, of substance, of truth, but hey life is harsh.


Hi there. I'm not sure what sort of gratification you're after, but I'll probably disappoint. Which generation am I again?

You'll probably find a more substantial engagement with whatever political position you're espousing (other than withering and vain criticism) if you endeavoured to engage me rather than spaffing a blanket assumption about who I am and why I am criticising this thread. I like an argument, but yours isn't one (any more than mine was, granted).

kthxbai lol.

Glice 05.20.2008 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tesla69
This isn't a political article. It icurrent events.


Oxymoron, by the way.

✌➬ 05.20.2008 01:44 PM

Like Glice says, "Cunts" all of you.

tesla69 05.20.2008 01:50 PM

hey no one is forcing you to read every thread and responding to every thread that you aren't interested in. for some reason you (2nd person plural) feel obligated to let everyone know. everytime. instead of just contributing in an interesting way. But you have to explain your use of oxymoron above. Are you asserting "political article" is an oxymoron? or "current events" is an oxymoron? Or are you trying to say the two things equal each other, which they don't.

Rob Instigator 05.20.2008 01:52 PM

girls, yr both pretty

sarramkrop 05.20.2008 01:57 PM

Copy, paste and add a little half-baked revision of what you've just read.
After that: You're ready to save the world, my friend.

Ciccone Warhol Monroe 05.20.2008 02:01 PM

what the person above me said.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 05.20.2008 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Copy, paste and add a little half-baked revision of what you've just read.
After that: You're ready to save the world, my friend.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gccfz...ature=related# [to express my surprise]

and if you prefer a more mellow, serious version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq_AXxJgFmM#


but obviously....


Quote:

Originally Posted by suchfriendsaredangerous

haterz wanna hate, loverz wanna love...




 



Glice 05.20.2008 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tesla69
hey no one is forcing you to read every thread and responding to every thread that you aren't interested in. for some reason you (2nd person plural) feel obligated to let everyone know. everytime. instead of just contributing in an interesting way. But you have to explain your use of oxymoron above. Are you asserting "political article" is an oxymoron? or "current events" is an oxymoron? Or are you trying to say the two things equal each other, which they don't.


Apologies if my interpretation was erroneous - I was inferring that current events are political (that is to say, current events are not not political); that is, by stating 'This isn't a political article' and then immediately following it with 'this is current events' lead me to the impression that you wished to suggest that 'politicle articles' and 'current events' were, if not in opposition, then at least distinct. I was using oxymoron in the sense applied to phrases of rhetoric rather than compound noun-adjective words. That is to say, that by negating the object of the first sentence you wished to emphasise the assertion of the second. My assertion, in turn, is pretty much in common with SFAD, as it happens - politics isn't something that happens in history books, it's happening now, and the article SFAD posted is one such instance of this.

I can't really apologise if you feel my contribution frivolous; we're left with a world of non-sequiturs here because anyone can assert that they think someone else's contribution to 'the board' is 'pointless' or another such synonym. Mud-slinging is a laugh for a while, but it can easily descend into a pissing-competition (I'm well aware of the irony of my saying that, thanks).

I (second person plural) by no means respond to all the threads that don't interest me. Clearly, I have some vague semblance of a life that doesn't involve me sitting in front of the Sonic Youth forum writing 'this thread is cock' over and over again.

Glice 05.20.2008 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Copy, paste and add a little half-baked revision of what you've just read.
After that: You're ready to save the world, my friend.


This is the problem - I'm generally interested in what SFAD has to say when he isn't getting over-excited about some article he's just read that he compulsively copies and pastes into a thread. I rarely agree with it, but there's that human touch that I can be bothered to trawl through. I may be arrogant, but I can trust myself to read up on political events that interest me (and, lest we forget, no-one will ever read everything).

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 05.20.2008 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
This is the problem - I'm generally interested in what SFAD has to say when he isn't getting over-excited about some article he's just read that he compulsively copies and pastes into a thread. I rarely agree with it, but there's that human touch that I can be bothered to trawl through. I may be arrogant, but I can trust myself to read up on political events that interest me (and, lest we forget, no-one will ever read everything).


sorry for trying to expand yr world, but this is the 21st century, and that is the whole damned point of human communication to begin with. as it has been said, if you are not interested in the news I spread or the opinions I express, why are you keen to through in yr

 
all the time? maybe it is because you are more interested then you thought?

demonrail666 05.20.2008 02:15 PM

I'vde got nothing against threads with a political theme. I actually find them interesting. It's the style that some of them take which I find so annoying. I want to know what people HERE think about stuff, not what a journalist from the BBC, Reuters, CNN, etc. has to say. By simply pasting up chunks of news items it seems to assume that I rely on a messageboard dedicated to some alternative rock band in order to keep informed of world events, when in actual fact, I read the newspapers and watch enough TV news to consider myself reasonable aware of what's taking place. What I DON'T need is some rastafarian with issues about his own skin colour, getting all creative with his cut and paste in a bid to convince me that babylon's about to fall.

I'm sure I come across as even more of a mindless cretin to someone like suchfriends... with posts like this. All's I can say is that he's probably right. But unlike him, I see this as a forum for communication, not indoctrination.

Peace niggas

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 05.20.2008 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by demonrail666
What I DON'T need is some rastafarian with issues about his own skin colour, getting all creative with his cut and paste in a bid to convince me that babylon's about to fall.

I'm sure I come across as even more of a mindless cretin to someone like suchfriends... with posts like this. All's I can say is that he's probably right. But unlike him, I see this as a forum for communication, not indoctrination.


ouch! all I did here was post the news.. jesus you people are sour!

Where is the love to be found? Wont someone tell me?
cause life, sweet life, must be somewhere to be found -
Instead of concrete jungle jungle jungle!
Where the living is harder!

Rob Instigator 05.20.2008 02:24 PM

no gnus is good gnus

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 05.20.2008 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
no gnus is good gnus


so them say. what makes me laugh is that no person other then me is so thoroughly analyzed and scandalized on this board, for what? posting the news? talking about some controversial global issues? If you look at my threads and posts that shit accounts for 10-20% of what I post ,http://www.sonicyouth.com/gossip/sea...0&pp=30&page=2 the rest is cultural/musical/artistic/personal threads that have nothing to do with controversy, and yet....



 


sometimes I wonder what is up with the people here, why do some of you give so much a shit about me giving a shit about things that you clearly dont give a shit about?

"Saint Stephen with a rose
In and out of the garden he goes
Country garland in the wind and the rain
Wherever he goes the people all complain"

sarramkrop 05.20.2008 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
This is the problem - I'm generally interested in what SFAD has to say when he isn't getting over-excited about some article he's just read that he compulsively copies and pastes into a thread. I rarely agree with it, but there's that human touch that I can be bothered to trawl through. I may be arrogant, but I can trust myself to read up on political events that interest me (and, lest we forget, no-one will ever read everything).


Personally the thing about copying and pasting an article is not something that I have a problem per se, it's more the continuous preaching - instead of stimulating debate - on what is ultimately a medium that doesn't offer any tools for tactics and actions that would effectively follow up the preaching itself.

This is not to say that tesla69 or SFAD shouldn't post whatever passed through their mind on a section of this forum that has much less noble garbage on it than what they post anyway, it's just that you can't really complain if these threads get targeted by anyone who:

1 - Doesn't want to chat about any of those issues at the time of posting.

2 - Would love to follow up on what's been thrown at them, but ultimately are confonted by whatever pollutes a thread that isn't able to invite posters into it who are able to moderate it (i.e. with intelligent and stimulating points) because that's generally the very nature of how communication works on public forums' threads: fragmented, unpredictably stagnant and schizophrenically paced, all things that contribute to making a political debate on here time consuming/wasting.

Rob Instigator 05.20.2008 02:32 PM

and then again, some people just hate to be slapped with reality


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