my girlfriends good friend is 'straight edge'
i know it shouldnt because its their choice and we are all different yada yada
but i find it soo damn annoying

I know some guys who were straight edge, they're my drinking buddies now.

I guarantee that you won't think it's so weird when you're in your 30s and still enjoy music.
Straight edgers are easily as entertaining as people with hemp necklaces and pot leaf-themed t-shirts, and associating with only "edge" people is pretty much the flipside of having friends that are only your friends because you do the same drugs. In other words, it's kind of a funny thing to base one's identity around, and it has the added bonus of making you look like an uptight, sanctimonious ass. Might as well go all the way and wear a bow tie.

i have noticed that a lot of striahgt edgers like fugazi and black flag.

i don't think i've ever met a straight edge, i can understand the appeal for teens though, rebeling against peer pressure & stuff.

My peer group while growing up included people who drank, people who did a lot of drugs, people who experimented a little, and people who did none. There was ZERO so-called "peer pressure" with regard to alcohol, drugs and cigarettes. Most of our cliquishness was based on music (and to some extent, outlandish dress, though a lot of our friends were pretty "regular" looking too).

i knew you had to experience some peer pressure

I know two straight-edge guys. They're both married. One guy is totally working class, he's a welder. The other guy is a criminal defense lawyer. The lawyer grew up in a really crappy neighborhood where he saw lots of friends get involved with heroin and crack so there's his inspiration. The welder guy likes to brew his own root beer and he knows all the good roads to ride.

i never liked boozing as teen, and so i didn't do it and people all thought there was something wrong with me. not my friends, more just other people i'd meet. they took not boozing as being akin to not enjoying hanging out, or being bothred by other people boozing, i could see a lot of people thought that by not drinking i was casting judgement on those who do.

ex smokers can be the worst people.

idiotic.


teens have sex and do drugs. abnegation, persecution and persuasion don't solve the risks involved in those activities.
what teens need is straight information.

the straight edge kids were always worse than the hippies.

hippies, unwilling to share, are seldomly fascists about pleasure taking. the edgers had nothing to lose. nobody ever asked for a hit of high on life.

I'd rather kids under 18 be straight edge that fuck themselves up with stupid drinking binges and drugs and shit. save that shit for when you are an adult and need it to help survive the dreary boredome of a workaday life!

I was never straight edge. but I sat next to the straight edge kid and I studied him...

ha ha!

O RLY?!

Minor Threat, too

wow i never knew that! they MIGHT listen to some hardcore, punk and metal too. who knows.

So that straight edge doc with Thurston sucked ass?

I was at my friends house getting wasted and completely forgot about it.

Any news on a re-air?

i think sunday afternoon/evening. maybe tonight at 1 in the morning too. i forget what the website said. if you miss it though you're not missing a lot.

i had my first beer when i was twelve, my first cigarette at 13, by the time i was 14 i was sick of it because everybody in school was getting drunk on the weekends and drunk driving, i thought it was retarded and i really didn't want to be like them at all, so i kept clean.

but i wasn't straight edge, mainly because i didn't know what straight edge was, secondly i wanted to be me, not be some guy who was a punk or a metalhead or a goth or shit like that, i didn't want to belong. i didn't tell people what to do either, i couldn't care less about people.

on my last year of high school, i started smoking and would drink every once in a while, it wasn't like a hard set of rules .

Thanks for the info!!


Just DVR'd it.

what? i remember you said you used to paint X's in your hands