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while Overlord Hillary is generally a dumbass narcissist "global nationalosm" is politicospeak for something similar to neo-Imperialism. and to be sure Putin is most definitely a worst class assholevand how he is somehow winning a global PR battle simply because many people are rightfully critical of American policies baffles my mind. its the definition of cutting off your nose just to spite your face!
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imperialism? he might be an asshole (probably is) and some sort of dictator (probably is), that is for sure, but he is definitely not as such a threat to the world like he is being described in mainstream media, espec. US.. instead NATO is building bases all around Russia criticising how aggressive they are. I do not know who the aggressor is. but NATO is definitely provocateur it seems and bit cheeky and definitely expanding, it is like poking bear with the stick. it is all game on people and part of propaganda that Russia is blamed for everything, which is stoopid. but maybe it is plan to bring conflict between west and Russia and China which would suck big time. then when I see Larvov and Kerry in Geneva, how friendly they appear to be, it is just confusing. there is actually so much stuff in politics which doesn't make sense anymore.... |
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Putin has stolen Russia through open corruption, and has used a combination of coercion and corruption to force a Russian economic agenda all around the Eastern world. last time i checked waging wars in Ukraine and Syria are the definition of Imperialism, especially when these wars are connected with lucrative oil pipelines that are Russia's economic life blood. I am not one to "blame Russia for everything" but it is foolish to somehow give Russia a pass for their national and international sins simply because their sins are less than America's or any other power. Sure the US is pushing against Russia because of America's own neo-Imperialist agenda, BUT that somehow doesn't magically negate Russia's own neo-Imperialist interests globally. And Russia isn't a threat to the world, but if you live in Ukraine or Syria right now, Russian military strikes are most definitely and existential threat. |
its not so bad if we let russia have its oil pipelines because by the time it does most prole westerners will be living off batteries that last 30 years and power your whole house. we just got to let pooty poot get bogged down in this shit for a few more decades to keep him busy.
also at the rate he is having people murdered im sure someone will take him out or the whole shithouse will collapse. feel bad for the ruskies with their krokodil and vodka but at least they have eccentric sci fi billionaires i guess |
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I don't understand why nobody talks about wiki leaks on Sorors. Soros-affiliated organizations are deeply connected to numerous color revolutions, the Arab Spring, and a number of other uprisings across the world. They have been intimately involved in the coup that took place in Ukraine, and subsequent ratcheting up of Cold War tensions with Russia. |
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Apology accepted, SFAD. At the end of the day you're a good dude. I made up my own mind about Trump's screed before reading any of the pundits' takes on it. And I don't feel obliged to always go along with Democratic spin. FWIW, a Republican or two also thought Drumpf was suggesting an OK Corral solution to that pesky Clinton woman. |
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Maybe I should use an emoji in the future when making sarcastic comments so there's no misunderstanding. Sorry, SFAD, but you haven't caught me in a contradiction. |
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YES, that's why I posted this! Quote:
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Drjohnrock again. |
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Y'know, if I were HRC I'd show up to the first debate with this:
![]() No country names, no colors, just the borders. When Donathan brings up Benghazi (and you know that's gonna happen pretty early), I'd hold it in front of him and go, "You seem very concerned about the situation in Libya. Could you please show us where Libya is in this map? No? Well, you're very preoccupied with Syrian immigrants being terrorists. Can you point at Syria in the map? You can't, huh. OK, let's make this easier — how about Saudi Arabia? ...Sheesh. Alright, can you show us where GERMANY is? No, you imbecile, that's France!" Of course, the next day all the talk would be about "me" being an elitist meanie belittling Real America's candidate, poor thing he's never been in a presidential debate before, but heck wouldn't it be awesome to have a beer with him... |
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I highly doubt that. |
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everything else will come up short |
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haha don't be sassy at me because all the candidates in American election suck ;) plus in an election where people have called for various movie characters or a meteorite apocalypse certainly a well respected historical world leader even resurrected would certainly be an improvement |
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"people have" always said something or another so any claims can be claimed in support of your sophistry most voters aren't really partisan--they're just looking to make rational tradeoffs to solve practical problems you're just making fun of those who give a shit about this election--you're making high-sounding statements and pretending to be serious but you're just trolling this is evident from the "number of fucks [you] give" but some of your victims still don't get it |
im not trolling shit and until your conceited ass figures it out you will always look as silly as this election
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the rest is pretense |
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but you make it like it's "this election" and "that election" and "three elections" rather than ALL elections. you reject the electoral system as a whole but play it like you actually care about them and are just disappointed with the choices a communist or an anarchist will also reject elections but they will be clear and upfront about it and say what they stand for you just throw the rock and hide the hand though |
i don't play to care just because i support my criticism of the electoral process with substantive criticism of the political system. see the problem with you is you WANT me to be trolling because then you don't have to address any of my criticisms election after election. you always try to paint me with the troll brush because frankly you have always been unable to support your own political ideology outright and on its own merits and not in comparison to someone else. see, i am not hiding shit, everyone here knows who i am and what i believe in and why i don't support those things i am against. you know it too. instead of proving your own points you would rather attack my character, a textbook fallacy. i am comfortable with my political beliefs, values, and choices and i don't feel the need to apologize for them and antagonize your own to somehow legitimize my own. if you are that comfortable with your own the cool, maybe after TWELVE FUCKING YEARS and six elections on sYG you and I can have a substantive conversation.
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you criticize both candidates but you don't say what you're for---if you did there'd be a real debate, like-- theocracy vs. representative democracy, or whatever. but you don't, all you do is throw rocks. so yes after 12 years and 6 elections i know you're for throwing rocks but i've never seen you explicity stand for any political system or ideology or pragmatic stance of any sort. but here we are now, entertain us. |
that is the fundamental flaw in your own ideological approach, you think it always has to be an issue of comparison or having an alternative. there is space in politics simply for honest dissent and open criticism. indeed its silly because you can dismiss my criticisms all you'd like, it doesn't make the concrete reality that they address also just dematerialize and vanish.
me? i concede reality and go back to criticism. i could careless if its Trump or Hillary, once the dog and pony show is over i can go back to criticism. indeed its a core tenet of democracy, that constituents don't drink the kool aid |
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of course there's a space in politics for honest dissent and open criticism-- and that's my criticism of you-- your criticism is dishonest and your dissent is hidden. you don't say where it comes from, or what you stand for, you just say shit like "overlord hillary" and ooh, great accomplishment, random words. see, a maoist will say that they don't support elections under capitalism because they're a distraction from a necessary revolution. an islamist will say that this is a godless system. a libertarian might say that they don't support big government. and so on and so forth. take for example chomsky-- a long-time respected critic of the american system. he's an anarcho-syndicalist. if you ask him what he'll stand for, he will tell you. you can consider what he proposes when he denounces what we have, so that you can put his comments into perspective. but you don't say what you're for, or what is the good that you oppose against the bad you claim to reject. you're just playing games for your self-satisfaction. |
a good article on the less informed, but still HIGHLY CRITICAL demographic here,
http://harpers.org/archive/2016/05/t...ynical-people/ |
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look i understand it seems to be your core philosophy that people must be in partisan groups in order for you to believe in their sincerity but i think that is nonsense. people can have a critical perspective without being partisan. its a basic principle of political science, that we can analyze even games where we have no invested interests. Quote:
nope, but again i find it cute that you always dismiss my perspective as if i was playing games simply because i don't play YOUR game. its ok !@#$!, you can share your toys too |
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look i understand it seems to be your core philosophy that people must be in partisan groups in order for you to believe in their sincerity but i think that is nonsense. people can have a critical perspective without being partisan. its a basic principle of political science, that we can analyze even games where we have no invested interests. Quote:
nope, but again i find it cute that you always dismiss my perspective as if i was playing games simply because i don't play YOUR game. its ok !@#$!, you can share your toys too |
biden 2016
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well, that's the dumbest thing I've read in a looooong time
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mitt romney, an otherwise adult and crntrist candidate with national bipartisan support couldn't beat one of the most divisive incumbent presidents in the modern era. indeed Obama had most staunch relection numbers of past fifty years! if mitt couldnt win Trump will be absolutely roasted, probably carry about the same 35% he has maintained since summer of 2015
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this isn't about partisanship. any perspective requires a point of view. you simply hide yours to place yourself beyond the reach of the criticism you claim to practice. all you do is throw rocks from a convenient spot where nobody can throw them back at you. and of course you continue to dissemble while you pretend to refute this Quote:
must be great to know the future with such certainty and without trace of doubt. you could get a great gig in either wall street or las vegas. what are you waiting for? while probabilities are still clearly in favor of hilary, the election is 9 weeks away and anything from a russian propaganda to something more sinister could definitely shift the probabilities in the other directon and elections have consequences electing a born-again who'd launch a crazy crusade against "gog and magog" while giving 300 bucks to every taxpayer had enormous consequences for the middle east and the domestic budget and many social programs then obama made it possible for me and millions of others to get good health insurance without having to be a corporate employee. thanks obama! next, of course a white nationalist presidency would be a clusterfuck that would unleash a myriad untold consequences. and i can't predict the future, but i just don't like those odds. |
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thanks for posting the link! |
and speaking of great pieces, and elections having consequences, here's paul krugman from earlier this year:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/04/op...nces.html?_r=0 |
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i KNOW you are smarter than this. for example, can we criticize a different nation's politics without necessarily supporting on side or another? yes, of course we can. criticism doesn't require offering a viable alternative. sure that would be nice but its not available for every situation even if there is certainly room for criticism in every situation. and of course you continue to dissemble while you pretend to refute this Quote:
its not magic, doesn't require psychic powers or Biff's Almanac. anyone paying any attention to the political trends of past several years can easily make similar predictions, indeed almost every forecast and analysis all agree with my prediction. but you know this already, you do your homework, hence why your arguing with me about it is simply a petty personality contest and frankly i thought you were more mature than that. Quote:
it would take something entirely unforeseen such as a mass terror attack or Katrina level natural disaster to cause a 20% shift in votes and indeed if such occurs i doubt "politics as usual" would prevent it anyway! Quote:
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meanwhile millions are still left uncovered because of gaps and what is worse because Obamacare punked out of providing an actual government provided plan OR by giving the Federal Insurance Office the same override power that state insurance commissions have over insurance rates to prevent gauging. meanwhile insurance rates for many Americans have doubled or more essentially for no reason aside from lacking regulatory power or from state commissioners caving to insurance companies making healthcare increasingly out of reach for those Americans who are NOT eligible for Obamacare subsidies.. Quote:
i agreed completely that it would be a terrible mandate for the racist/bigot component of America BUT come on we all know that federal government power are greatly limited by the "checks and balances" for good if someone like trump is elected, for worse when a president like Obama is greatly limited |
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