hahahaaa yeah the spammers and scammers getting more sophisticated

My girlfriend's Dad borrow us his. Which is probably the best option.....since neither one of us really would use the thing much, basically for traveling.
this is the one he let us borrow. Not sure if it's the exact model, but looks just like it.

very nice, and looks like an insanely versatile lens-- ultrawide to portrait? i don't know how sony makes a 4mm lens... oh, because the crop factor (just read while typing this) the equivalent is 22 to 580mm. 580! that's like, wildlife level shit. and the wide should give you nice panoramas.

i read reviews and it's not a perfect camera but nothing beats free, for sure--read some instructions, keep the ISO low (it's noisy, they say) and enjoy!

I just read a news article regarding a new study. It had the following line:


and


Now I'm confused

uh, looks like I'm a bit late :o...

I used a Canon Poershot S1 IS, then "upgraded" (I'm talking years ago...) to a S3 IS, loved them, nice optical zoom, decent quality, but we're talking 6.0 Megapixel CCD, eh, quite outdated...

honestly, I think that unless you need the optical zoom nowadays some mid-high level smartphones could easily "work" almost as good as cheap cameras, so if the budget is really tight it's not that easy to find a worthy model...

Nowadays I use APS-C cameras, a Nikon D7000 reflex (had it for a few years) and lately I fell in love with Fuji's mirrorless x series (I tried an X-E1, which is quite "old" but wonderful to use even with vintage lenses, I think I'll "upgrade" soon to an X-E2s).

Sony makes great compact cameras, and great not-so-compact long-zoom cameras (RX 100 and RX 10) and great interchangable lenses mirrorless too (A6300 and their full frame models), but I'd say it's almost pointless buying cameras with sensors smaller than 1" nowadays. and the models I mentioned are quite costly... end of rant (end of my time to rant about cameras, at least), I'll be back for more when I've more time and I'm bored of real life ahahah.....

A DAY TOO LATE MAN!

But thanks for the info. Now I know I'll need to spend a nice amount to get a pretty solid camera.







And....Seattle is dope. We were pretty shocked when we arrived. We were early and decided to explore a bit before checking in. Wow. Pioneer Square was nice, but a wrong turn and BOOM you're in an alley with a shit ton of homeless people doing drugs. They seemed harmless and didn't bother us, but wow. We weren't expecting that. The seafood was pretty amazing. In fact all of the food we had there was awesome. Our experience was really nice. It's a city, but a lot of the times it didn't feel like it, everyone was super nice to us and nothing ever felt rushed. That city impacted me in such a nice way. I wish to return soon.

ha ha, that sounds awesome, i'm envious (i a good, non-hater, "i want that" way)

re: the camera

what nicfit said is right, but the point we might be missing here is that you *already* have a decent camera in your phones-- you've seen those "shot with an iphone" commercials yes? plus you get the online storage and all the apps ready to publish on the same device. no need to hook the camera to a computer, etc.

so rather than wait to spend a ton of money on gear (if you want good and cheap look at micro four thirds, cheaper than aps-C sensors, great affordable lenses, and some great little cameras), think maybe of how to make the best of what you already have, and once you get good you can scale up.

a little gorillapod for iphone is something like $25 i think? that will add a lot of flexibility and a steady "hand." and if you want to play with lenses, those iphone lenses are in your budget. worst case scenario is you don't like them and return them and get your money back.

I didn't miss that point! :mad::p:)

"honestly, I think that unless you need the optical zoom nowadays some mid-high level smartphones could easily "work" almost as good as cheap cameras, so if the budget is really tight it's not that easy to find a worthy model..."

Most people are not even aware of the capabilities of the camera on their phones and they just point and shoot, but camera apps can offer good control over the shooting parameters, and fiddling/getting to know better those parameters can make a big difference in quality of the final image even of small-ish sensors of smartphones' cameras.



Well, you don't necessarily need to buy a camera unless you feel you can't squeeze out of your phone's sensor images you like (after you "study" the controls/parameters mentioned earlier).

Also you'd need to find out if you're really willing to bring a "proper" camera with you, if you end up buying something and you like the images it produces but you find yourself leaving it at home because it adds "bulk" to your lean figure :D it could be a pretty pointless purchase, even if the upgrade in terms of image quality is there.

never forget: "The best camera is the one that's with you." – Chase Jarvis

oh, lemme be a bit rude here:



that's total bullshit.

What you have to consider to get a decent idea of the actual picture quality is the MP count relative to the sensor size AND the quality of the glass in front of the sensor.

A small sensor crammed with pixels won't produce crispier/better images, because the light the camera "absorbs" (which is the magic stuff that makes cameras work, ahahah) gets "divided" into smaller (too small, even) fractions, and that would actually reduce the quality of the printed/screen-viewed output, especially when the lighting of the scene is a bit challenging and in low light.. (just as an example, Sony has in its lineup the a7s, a Full Frame camera with 12.2 MP that's just a BEAST in low light situations, because it has "bigger pixels" on its sensor, able to gather more light=more information in each of them).

Big numbers in MP count on compact cameras with "slow" lenses is just a marketing ploy to lure customers.

IMHO, unless you need to print HUGE POSTERS and look at them from a close distance, or absolutely need to go Full Frame for some reason, I think the actual sweet spot for enthusiasts/consumers would be around 16MP tops on an APS-C sensor.

Adding MPs, even when they're well implemented (like symbolguy said sony makes great sensors which are able to make good use of higher pixels' count) could be not worth it unless you shoot wildlife/sports and often crop your files. Higher pixel count results in bigger files->need for bigger storage/more powerful pc/mac->longer postproduction time->not necessarily better prints/files unless you're interested in the not-so-noble art of pixel peeping.

WAIT A SEC--- didn't we have some sort of photography thread to talk about gear and stuff? Or was it the one where lately "we" just post pictures and there's almost no talk?

I could go on for ages talking about cameras.
Sorry.

ahah.
I'd have some recommendations for specific models, but perhaps it's not a good idea sto start making lists now.

ha ha ha i know that

i was using the pedagogical "we", as in "why do we fall?"

in other words by "we" i meant "you"

and by "you" i meant him

like "you're forgetting the part where we tell you to exploit your phone's capabilities"

i think he should be looking at this kind of shit first before any discussion about buying more:

http://iphonephotographyschool.com/iphoneography/

and sites of that kind. the iphone camera can take great photos and some of the apps are fun.

btw, i got a panny g7 last spring and i'm loving it. it's a bit tiny for my hands but it's superlight and i scored this brand-new 60mm olympus macro lens (120mm equivalent) for $400.

i know you're already committed to aps-c so it makes sense to stay on that path, but to start from zero, m43 is really nice too. not better-- but great bang for the buck-- sometimes insane. the gh4 has been getting great reviews since release (it's the new indie video darling) but the g7 at $700 with a zoom kit lens was a better deal for me as it shoots 4K video

olympus has the om-d e-m1 (longass name) which is great for photos. and some of the olympus PEN cameras are like $400-500-- they look like a rangefinder but you can change lenses and i think i want one in my pocket with a pancake lens. some day.

i got burned on nikon since my d70s just died on me and wiped some cards in the process, and i've always loved panny for video-- so the g7 works for me very well.

the fujis you mention look amazing btw. i've seen some samples and they're incredible. wish i had the budget for one.

BUT we should be encouraging evolghost to stop spending and start working ha ha ha ha!

like this one:

http://motto.time.com/4205365/iphone...take-better-2/

and for inspiration:

http://time.com/4393576/iphone-photo-awards-2016/

autumn is coming. summertime can go fuck itself. go fuck yourself summertime.

more info for joaquín:

http://thewirecutter.com/blog/all-ca...-good-cameras/

hahaha.

If I'm paying 500+ it should be a badass camera no matter what.

pretty much

the rest of the article is good though-- shooting style, preferred subjects, hand fit, etc

also check out those iphone photography links-- so you can take better photos today

explaining this board to people who don't "get" the internet or "get" boards even if they're on the internet is so weird. my password still works! (i set the fucker in like, 2009?)

woohoo!!

one last if you're curious

http://gear.lifehacker.com/enhance-y...ens-1767837557

bad day today, like existential bad. fuck it is what it is

damn dude, sorry to hear

from me all i can say that our frequent internet disputes don't extend into real life, and i really wish you the best

tgif at least or no?

thank you kindly. much appreciated.

its not a big deal im just bitching about it, but there are several "worst-case scenarios" running simultaneously right now so its exhausting.. ill be cool when all the stress hormones in my brain fizzle out

that's why beer was invented (not hard liquor)

i just started the weekend's with a bag of chicharrones and some cold cans of american macro beer--about to sit down for some movies

i don't know what's your equivalent, could be running could be a cheeseburger could be something else, but sometimes the best thing to do is to help the mind to stop racing and for a while just be

im gtfo for today but again best wishes

neighbor car blasting music. my dog staring at me. I get up and go to the restroom. lean up against the wall and stare ahead at the wall. piss all over the left side of the toilet.

come out and my dog is still staring at me. eye to eye. levitate. typing here in some astral plane. heavy. MJ fox style.

irrelevant news for the day: situation at least slightly improving just outside of critical to merely chronic. more importantly had a fun and refreshing weekend got my head back into the game. thanks for those posters and lurkers who wished me positive vibes

you know those big huge title court stamps they use to use? not the little ones that they posts on yr hand. those big huge ass ones that they would slam on the desk? I would like to get one of those and pound you in the forehead with one that says Chronic.

POW!!! right in the forehead......'Chronic'! walk out of the court room with 'Chronic' on yr forehead.

such is Chronic. with a headache. happily going about his way.

ended up bleeding all over the fucking thing (it wasn't even tuneable)
everyone else at that fucking opening night got like 500 bucks and all i got was a couple of shitty ass, tiny weeny bottles of craft beers and free enrty to the rest of the festival... haha.
Tthen organizers complaining why it was so short... they kinda thought i was actually part of the program.
way to crash a 'experimental music' fashion show.

this is cool.

fashion show? Christoph, c'mon! :)

i blame Kim for this

don't know how it sounded but, it looks cool as hell!! a stack and a five neck guitar?

bring the noise dude!!!

yeah, a bit style over mater actually.
it was fun though.
don't even know the dude who built it... after the show he just clapped on my shoulders and said something like "well played, dude"...
a fashoin show, slavo :-)

so all the Applephiles always brag about how great Macs are.. they don't get viruses.. they don't crash.. that is why the Mac I use sometimes at work just totally crashed right????

eww!



*plucks pubic hair out the side of mouth*

yr mother is in her prime. I couldn't get none tonight.

I remember the 4th july a year ago. blow jobs and beer abound on the night stand joint in my mouth. when you told me yr jaw was getting sore I gave you a lil slap on the cheeks wit my dick and you started sucking some more.

it was beautiful. slip slap. I was sliding on the pussy. right along with your mums pic of you as a football player in lil league.

I came in her mouth. I always came in her mouth. she likes when I cum in her mouth. yr mom. I wish she would come see me tonight. I know she hates that redneck she's with cause I gots the biggest dick.

I me and my family went to the zoo today. I told them to go ahead while a smoked half a fatty in the parking lot.

meerkats are friends and never got that close to an American alligator before. that was crazy. murderous predators. most of the other animals were subdued. even the monkeys. lazy saturday cool evening chilling in the sun mammals is what they were. lack of funding put a damper on it all. no variety.

it made me think of your mum with that fat juicy ass giving me head. too bad.

My friend helped me paint my apartment yesterday. They are my sweethearts colours. We still have a lot more to paint. Amazing how colour changes the entire mood of the home

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MILLIONS of Britons fear robots will take over the world and destroy the human race, according to new research.

PUBLISHED: 09:59, Sun, Oct 2, 2016 | UPDATED: 10:19, Sun, Oct 2, 2016





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Almost six in 10 UK adults have concerns about the impact of artificially intelligent robots on mankind and four in 10 think humanoids could destroy humanity.

And 64 per cent of people expect human-robot interaction to be commonplace within the next 50 years.

The concerns echo those of Stephen Hawking and Elon Musk who have described artificial intelligence (AI) technology as our "biggest existential threat".

Fears include the dangers of robot malfunctions (45 per cent) and that we will end up with a kind of dystopian future envisaged in films like Terminator, with a third (35 per cent) believing robots will evolve beyond our understanding and take control of society.

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With almost four in 10 Brits (39 per cent) expecting human-like robots to be part of everyday life within 25 years, an army of Westworld 'humanoids' descended on London to highlight what this reality might be like.

Leading body artist Emma Fay led a team of 10 to create the unique humanoid look, with each model taking six hours to create.

The shock poll of 2,000 UK adults was conducted to mark the launch of Westworld, a new futuristic sci-fi thriller which premieres on Sky Atlantic and NOW TV at 9pm on Tuesday night (October 4).

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Professor Noel Sharkey, Emeritus Professor of AI and Robotics University of Sheffield, was a consultant on the study.

He said: "The robotics community has certainly been considering the idea that robots will be walking among us, and it's just a matter of when really.

"We are likely to see robots integrated into society in the near future as shop assistants, receptionists, doctors, bar tenders and also as carers for our elderly and children.

"It'll all happen very gradually over the next 20 to 30 years until we don't even notice they're among us.

"I don't think there's anything to be concerned about but if they come to look too human-like, they could be used to deceive us in many ways."

Men were nearly twice as likely to relish the prospect of living among androids, with a fifth claiming they were excited by the idea, while just a tenth of women took that view.

Top concerns for both genders included robots interacting with their children (68 per cent), losing out on jobs to uber-efficient humanoids (49 per cent) and sharing our homes with artificially intelligent housemates (46 per cent).

A third believe theme parks that feature artificially intelligent, human-like robots will be a reality within the next 25 years, similar to the setting of the new JJ Abrams drama - and half would consider visiting a theme park of this nature.

Zai Bennett, director of Sky Atlantic, said: "AI and robotics are fast becoming part of everyday life, but our research demonstrates just how much we don't know about this technology or where it could be heading.

"Sky Atlantic's Westworld explores what life might be like if this became a reality.

"It looks at the future of AI - and the choices we make when we're given free rein to live our lives without any consequences."






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WHAT IS TO BE?

The tale I tell you on this day
T’is truth of what will come to be,
Our soldiers of ‘today’ will go,
Replaced by robots, you hear from me.
To slim down our manned forces,
Remember you heard it first from me,
The factories busy making eight foot robots
For that in future ----is to be.

Some “Terminator-Type” robotic killers
Replacing our troops will come to be,
Transporters replaced by robotic vehicles
You heard it first from me!
Autonomous robots with power to make decisions,
To kill and maim is what will come to be,
Think this could never happen?
You read it here from me.

Unaccountable robotic killing machines
Rise from new technologies unknown to me
Human Rights Watch could not prevent
What will indeed come to be.
Lethal armed robots that can target and kill,
You read it here what will indeed come to be,
Though “humans” watch and often wonder,
No rejection-though repugnant- you heard from me

Already “Drones” hover in the sky above,
This truth known, yet not from me,
Targeting areas planned out by others,
Yet I prayed it would never come to be.
I knew no “bows and arrows” of yester-year,
Though bombs were very well known to me,
To un-accounted robotic killing machines,
I pray and pray will never come to be.

Battlefield killer Robots almost a reality,
Human Rights ended, though once known to me,
The worry about ‘mortality’ and accountability
Yet, will it all indeed ever come to be?
The Campaigns to stop Killer robots
From fields afar, yet sadly not from me,
An International Treaty sought to ban
On closéd ears, sadly it may well yet come to be.
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sometimes I put my hand in my pocket and rattle my change because it's make me feel important. there's nothing like that feeling walking around with a pocket full of change and it jangles. now i know what ZZ top were talking about. give an extra hop to the step.

keys. having lots of keys too. i should have became a janitor.